Ian Dowse wrote: > I've been seeing an issue with 8.1.4 that seems to be caused by the > way UPDATE operations prefer to place the new row version in the > same page as the original row. The issue is specific to UPDATEs; > it does not occur when each UPDATE is replaced by a DELETE/INSERT > pair. The problem can prevent a temporarily bloated table from ever > returning to its normal size even though all rows are frequently > changing and regular vacuuming is taking place. > > A simple way to demonstrate the issue is to insert 10001 rows into > an empty table and delete the first 10000 rows. Now, repeatedly > performing (lazy) vacuums and UPDATEs will never result in the table > size shrinking: Yeah. This scenario is one of those for which "popular knowledge" ("common wisdom"? "Postgres folklore"?) tells you to do a VACUUM FULL or equivalent (e.g. CLUSTER). Using the same page for an updated tuple is generally a useful optimization, so I don't think you have much hopes for having it disabled. The INSERT+DELETE equivalent doesn't have the opportunity to use that optimization though, which is why it has to go to the FSM and thus get a different page to do the INSERT on. -- Alvaro Herrera http://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support