-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/11/06 19:10, Geoffrey wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 10/11/06 14:48, Chris Browne wrote: >>> ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Andrew Sullivan) writes: >>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 02:50:44PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> [snip] >>> Oh, and a cluster of IBM p570s would probably be enough to run a 20 >>> user system :-(. [Actually, that's probably not *entirely* fair; I >>> once administered an R/3 system supporting ~30 users on a uniprocessor >>> DEC Alpha with 256MB of RAM, which by modern standards is pretty >>> pedestrian...] >> >> <GEEZER> >> My first programming job was walloping COBOL on a 1.9 MIPS IBM 43xx >> with only 6MB RAM. Supported *70* online users and had a >> *relational* database (CA Datacom-DB). >> >> Of course, the FEPs, block-mode terminals and CICS were the crucial >> difference. >> >> Damned shame that Unix killed that mentality, and that client-server >> was usually implemented so poorly. >> </GEEZER> > > You had that much memory? Used to run a time reporting system on a 3b2 Hey, I remember those. A 3b2 was my first exposure to Unix. At the time I was a VMS programmer who loved DCL, and was *not* impressed by Unix. I *still* use VMS at work, and while DCL is really showing it's age and while bash 3.1 on Linux (which I'm writing this from now) is light-years better than sh, VMS is still a great "DP" operating system. > 400, 4MB Ram, WE32100 10MHz processor, 1.1 MIPS. Flat file home grown > database system that used indices in shared memory and semaphore > communication between three continuously running processes. > > The application ran in pretty much all the AT&T factories at the time. Flat files and minimal user interaction? Bah. Now, if *one* machine ran a whole AT&T factory, that would be impressive. Of course, VAX/VMS would do it, and no one would bat an eyelash. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFLY1tS9HxQb37XmcRAvXVAJ9sJrS8FBFDUyAqLTuff3vHun/qYQCgl/Fb PIc0DnyGF4jitjWBjF1H+z8= =9ePW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----