On Sunday 02 July 2006 01:42, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > Uwe C. Schroeder wrote: > > You can technically just copy & paste the postgresql data directory IF > > YOU SHUT DOWN THE POSTMASTER FIRST! Be aware that this will only work for > > the same version of postgresql. Also: this is not a good way to do it and > > I'd encourage you not to use this as general means of backup (it's ok if > > you want to create a quick clone of an existing database on a second > > machine - provided that the platform and postgresql version on there is > > identical to the source). > > Well, err. thats not completely true with current postgres versions: > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/backup-online.html > > ... Ok, you're correct on that one. However I'd rather not encourage someone to mess with WAL and filesystem based backups when s/he hasn't even heard of pg_dump yet, simply because I can already see the next question popping up ... like in "I had a failure and wanted to restore my backup, but everything is messed up now and I can't get it running - help please!" :-) With a standard pg_dump that won't happen, so it's IMHO the safest way to deal with the backup problem for a newbie. On a side-note: that piece of documentation is pretty heavy reading and assumes quite some knowledge about how a DB system like postgresql works internally. For me it's always the least sophisticated approach that solves a given problem. The good old KISS principle applies again :-) Uwe > > >> Is there any way to back-up database like mysql or sql server we just > >> copy and paste. Or maybe there is any tools to copy database when the > >> service is shutdown. > >> > >> Where is postgresql put teh database files? > > Well, thats in the docs ;) (or see above) > > btw, just "copy and paste" w/o preparation is > dangerous with the above databases too. > > Regards > Tino -- Open Source Solutions 4U, LLC 1618 Kelly St Phone: +1 707 568 3056 Santa Rosa, CA 95401 Cell: +1 650 302 2405 United States Fax: +1 707 568 6416