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Can you try something more recent then "last year"?

On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Roman Neuhauser wrote:

# scrappy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 2006-02-26 19:01:58 -0400:
'k, I just checked all the lists you listed, and you are subscribed to
each of them ... are you not receiving messages?

   I'm not receiving messages because I'm subscribed with nomail.
   That's not the problem however. I want to receive the list traffic
   to a different set of addresses, and that stalled ("the request must
   be approved by the moderators"), as well as my attempts to gain
   pgsql-docs-owner@'s and postmaster@'s attention.

   Does anyone read mail for the pgsql-<list>-owner@ and postmaster@
   aliases? Does anyone pay attention to the approval queue?

   Anyway, here's a few snippets from my last year's email
   conversations with majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

   My subscription requests:

   : Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:17:37 +0200
   : From: Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@xxxxxxxxxx>
   : To: majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   :
   : subscribe-set pgsql-docs noprefix neuhauser+pgsql-docs#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx
   : subscribe-set pgsql-general noprefix neuhauser+pgsql-general#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx
   : subscribe-set pgsql-hackers noprefix neuhauser+pgsql-hack#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx
   : subscribe-set pgsql-performance noprefix neuhauser+pgsql-perf#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx
   : subscribe-set pgsql-sql noprefix neuhauser+pgsql-sql#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx
   : subscribe-set pgsql-docs nomail neuhauser@xxxxxxxxxx
   : subscribe-set pgsql-general nomail neuhauser@xxxxxxxxxx
   : subscribe-set pgsql-hackers nomail neuhauser@xxxxxxxxxx
   : subscribe-set pgsql-performance nomail neuhauser@xxxxxxxxxx
   : subscribe-set pgsql-sql nomail neuhauser@xxxxxxxxxx

   Majordomo replied with the usual batch of CONFIRM messages, one of
   which was:

   : Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 07:17:39 -0300
   : From: pgsql-general-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   : To: neuhauser+pgsql-general#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx
   : Subject: CA86-08AC-51A7 : CONFIRM from pgsql-general (subscribe)
   :
   : __
   : The following request
   :
   :   "subscribe-set pgsql-general noprefix neuhauser+pgsql-general#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx"
   :
   : was sent to
   : by Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@xxxxxxxxxx>.
   :
   : To accept or reject this request, please do one of the following:
   :
   : 1. If you have web browsing capability, visit
   :    <http://mail.postgresql.org/mj/mj_confirm/domain=postgresql.org?t=CA86-08AC-51A7>
   :    and follow the instructions there.
   :
   : 2. Reply to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   :    with one of the following two commands in the body of the message:
   :
   :     accept
   :     reject
   :
   :    (The number CA86-08AC-51A7 must be in the Subject header)
   :
   : 3. Reply to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   :    with one of the following two commands in the body of the message:
   :
   :     accept CA86-08AC-51A7
   :     reject CA86-08AC-51A7
   :
   : Your confirmation is required for the following reason(s):
   :
   :   Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@xxxxxxxxxx> issued a command
   :   that affects another address (neuhauser+pgsql-general#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx).
   :
   :
   : If you do not respond within 4 days, a reminder will be sent.
   :
   : If you do not respond within 7 days, this token will expire,
   : and the request will not be completed.
   :
   : If you would like to communicate with a person,
   : send mail to pgsql-general-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

   I replied to that with:

   : Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:37:28 +0200
   : From: Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser+pgsql-general#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx>
   : To: majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   : Subject: Re: CA86-08AC-51A7 : CONFIRM from pgsql-general (subscribe)
   :
   : accept

   To which majordomo said:

   : Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 07:37:29 -0300
   : From: majordomo-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   : To: Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser+pgsql-general#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx>
   : Subject: Majordomo results: Re: CA86-08AC-51A7 : CONFIRM from pgsql-
   :
   :
   : >>>> accept
   : ---- The accept command for token CA86-08AC-51A7 succeeded,
   : ---- but further approval is needed.
   : ----
   : ---- Now the request must be approved by the moderators.
   : ---- The results will be mailed to you after this is done.
   : ----
   : ----
   :
   : Valid commands processed: 1
   : 0 succeeded, 1 stalled, and 0 failed.
   :
   :
   : Use the following command:
   :   sessioninfo 12bbdbfc049f53e9c1782cc9c10c6310e23e504f
   : to see technical information about this session.

   And that was the end of the conversation, I'm still waiting for a
   reply to my message to postmaster@ from December, and another one to
   pgsql-docs-owner@ from last August (covering the same problem):

   : Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 00:40:15 +0200
   : From: Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@xxxxxxxxxx>
   : To: pgsql-docs-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   : Subject: majordomo command processing problems?
   :
   : Hello,
   :
   : I tried to subscribe to pgsql-docs seven days ago:
   :
   : >>>> subscribe pgsql-docs neuhauser+pgsql-docs#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx
   : ---- The subscribe command did not succeed.
   : ----
   : ---- The request
   : ----   "subscribe pgsql-docs neuhauser+pgsql-docs#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx"
   : ---- must be confirmed by
   : ----   neuhauser+pgsql-docs#postgresql.org@xxxxxxxxxx
   : ---- and approved by the moderators.  Confirmation instructions have been
   : ---- mailed in a separate message.
   :
   : And then:
   :
   : >>>> accept 9E0C-7AF7-36CA
   : ---- The accept command for token 9E0C-7AF7-36CA succeeded,
   : ---- but further approval is needed.
   : ----
   : ---- Now the request must be approved by the moderators.
   : ---- The results will be mailed to you after this is done.
   :
   : Can you please expedite the approval a bit? (Do you really approve all
   : subscriptions by hand, or was my subscription attempt somehow
   : "suspicious"?)

   Is this a bug in majordomo, or in the postgresql.org setup?

   Similarly, should I expect my possible future emails to the owner
   and postmaster aliases to generate zero replies as well?

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
# scrappy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 2006-02-26 14:36:47 -0400:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
I've been waiting five months for the majordomo moderators to approve
my subscription requests to several @postgresql.org mailing lists.

the majordomo moderators don't have to approve subscribe requests, you
will auto-receive an email message from the list confirming that you do
want to subscribe though ... its a fairly automated procedure ... if you
aren't receiving the 'confirm' messages, then there is an overall problem
with mail deliver ...

checking pgsql-general, you are already subscribed ... what other lists
are you trying to get onto?

  A copy of the message I sent to postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx last
  december is attached. I think it has all the evidence of approval
  being required you need.

--
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You don't know, man.  You don't KNOW.
Cause you weren't THERE.             http://bash.org/?255991


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Email: scrappy@xxxxxxx           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664


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