> George Pavlov wrote: > > they have the same kind of page setup for pg Admin: > > > > http://pgsql.navicat.com/PG_Admin/index.php > > > > this one renders... > > > > both pages seem to tell robots not to cache them, so can't view a > > cached view on google. > > > At least PG Admin is free software and doing that is not > really hurting anyone since (at least I don't think) no one > is making money off of PG Admin III. > > I do mention my product as a PG Admin III alternative but I > would never use Navicat or EMS PG Manager by name anywhere on > my site. I use words like "Other Companies" etc. If you don't use "other companies" by name, you shouldn't use pgAdmin by name either, IMHO. But as long as you list it as "alternative for ...", it should be just fine to list any product name, as long as any comparison is fair. (And if it's not fair, you should just take it off. Now, I think actually putting it in the *title* of your site is not a nice way to play. Again, IMHO of course. I don't buy the argument that it makes a difference wether people pay for the product or not. There are still people putting considerable amount of work into pgAdmin, as with most opensource products. I don't see why they should be treated differently from people putting work in and getting paid for it. > I would like to know how they get such good placment on all > the search engines, you do a search on "Postgresql GUI admin" > and all you get on the first page is their stuff. You mean like the way sticking "pgadmin" in the title of a page not related with it will get you traffic not "meant" to go there? It's not as "bad" as sticking it in the URL, but in my book it's certainly not far off. In this case, that looks like paid links. And "spamming" every download site they can find. Sort of like any search for "pgadmin alternative" brings up links like http://www.soft3k.com/kw/pgadmin-alternative.htm. The idea is to match the url and title to the keywords which will bring the results higher up in teh search. Your main point (per the title of the site) is "pgadmin III alternative". Theirs is, again per the title of the site, "the worlds best gui for windows, linux and macos x". (Your site comes back up on the ranking if you put in "postgresql gui admin client", because then it takes over from the pgadmin part, I guess) //Magnus