Hello, So I have been reading over the web and it seems that one must define two methods before declaring a type. But I seem to have done it (CREATE TYPE) without creating any functions and it did not give me an error. I tried to use INSERT TABLENAME SET user-defined-column = ROW('val1' ,'va2' ...); and it works. The only problem is when I have ROW( , , 'values','morevalues', ,'evenmorevalues'); it does not like the commas one after the other (empty value) .... how do I solve that .... or does this have something to do with those two methods (in and out) that I overlooked. any insight would be much appreciated. -assad