Precisely the point I was trying to make sure everyone would understand clearly. Although I don't have a copy of Oracle's suspected new license, if it is close to the existing license verbiage, even though it is "crippled" by having certain hardware and software limits, those limits are per physical server. Therefore, anyone could simply deploy several installations on different physical servers and have quite a collection of Oracle databases. One of Oracle's big selling points with this application is that it is very painless to upgrade to their professional versions of their database by not requiring ANY change to the existing database or applications - simply plug your data in and go. Judging from this, Oracle has decided to follow Microsoft's SQL Server's free SQL program offer and also a lesson from your local crack dealer. By the way, I've tried both Microsoft's and Oracle's developer versions and Oracle has a MUCH better product here at the moment. Good luck even getting SQL Server installed! You have to stumble upon the "right" beta for .Net 2.0 before the installer will proceed...it managed to find it in only 45 minutes! Enough to make you kick yourself again for trying a Microsoft product. However, Oracle 10g Express Edition actually installs and performs quite well. All and all this is no "danger" to PostgreSQL's existence; though it may slow uptake in very important markets. I've never thought marketing was Postgre's strong point...oddly enough, the product is. -----Original Message----- From: pgsql-general-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pgsql-general-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Chris Browne Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:15 PM To: pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Oracle 10g Express - any danger for Postgres? And I daresay that this _can_ be an attractive thing to businesses, supposing they offer a "production release," gratis. There are plenty of "departmental applications" out there that involve limited amounts of data which can fit into the 4GB restriction. If Oracle provides a way to make it easy and cheap to deploy those, it can drive a fair bit of future Oracle business. The fact that it appears "a joke" to people wanting to deploy big databases doesn't prevent it from taking a painful bite out of, oh, say, certain vendors that forgot to own their own transactional storage engine... -- output = ("cbbrowne" "@" "cbbrowne.com") http://cbbrowne.com/info/languages.html Twice five syllables Plus seven can't say much but That's haiku for you. ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings