Looks like it's definately an issue with index bloat. Note that it's normal to have some amount of empty space depending on vacuum and update frequency, so 15G -> 20G isn't terribly surprising. I would suggest using pg_autovacuum instead of the continuous vacuum; it's very possible that some of your tables need more frequent vacuuming than they're getting now. If you go this route, you might want to change the default settings a bit to make pg_autovacuum more agressive. Also, I'd suggest posting to -hackers about the index bloat. Would you be able to make a filesystem copy (ie: tar -cjf database.tar.bz2 $PGDATA) available? It might also be useful to keep an eye on index size in pg_class.relpages and see exactly what indexes are bloating. On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 09:07:07AM +0200, hubert depesz lubaczewski wrote: > hi > setup: > postgresql 8.0.3 put on debian on dual xeon, 8GB ram, hardware raid. > > database just after recreation from dump takes 15gigabytes. > after some time (up to 3 weeks) it gets really slow and has to be dump'ed > and restored. > > as for fsm: > end of vacuum info: > INFO: free space map: 248 relations, 1359140 pages stored; 1361856 total > pages needed > DETAIL: Allocated FSM size: 1000 relations + 10000000 pages = 58659 kB > shared memory. > > so it looks i have plenty of space in fsm. > > vacuums run constantly. > 4 different tasks, 3 of them doing: > while true > vacuum table > sleep 15m > done > with different tables (i have chooses the most updated tables in system). > > and the fourth vacuum task does the same, but without specifying table - so > it vacuumes whole database. > > after last dump/restore cycle i noticed that doing reindex on all indices in > database made it drop in side from 40G to about 20G - so it might be that i > will be using reindex instead of drop/restore. > anyway - i'm not using any special indices - just some (117 to be exact) > indices of btree type. we use simple, multi-column, partial and multi-column > partial indices. we do not have functional indices. > > database has quite huge load of updates, but i thought that vacum will guard > me from database bloat, but from what i observed it means that vacuuming of > b-tree indices is somewhat faulty. > > any suggestions? what else can i supply you with to help you help me? > > best regards > > depesz -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com work: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461 ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster