> Is that select * being used to COUNT the number of rows? If so, > then do a "select count(*)" which will take the db engine about as > long, but it won't need to transfer the data across. Beats me. WE are not requesting a "select *" at all in the VB code. We are selecting and updating the rows we want to select and update via the appropriate "where" information. Somewhere in the black box that is VB/BusinessObjects/ODBC something is deciding that a "select *" is necessary for reasons unknown and then choking on (well, not actually choking but digesting slowly) the data returned. I'm just trying to find out if anyone has seen this problem and is it something inherent in VB, BusinessObjects or ODBC? In other words, is it something we can fix or do we need to set aside time to rewrite the app in a language that doesn't have these problems? Cheers, Steve ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly