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Re: Propogating conditions into a query

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Hi Tom,

This sounds like the same "problem" which prevented PG from using the indices, and thus giving abyssmal performance in this other thread:

I have two BIG tables (virtually identical) with 3 NOT NULL columns Station_id, TimeObs, Temp_XXXX, with unique indexes on (Station_id, TimeObs) and valid ANALYSE (set statistics=100). I want to join the two tables with a FULL OUTER JOIN.

When I specify the query as:

SELECT station_id, timeobs,temp_grass, temp_dry_at_2m
       FROM temp_dry_at_2m a
       FULL OUTER JOIN temp_grass b        USING (station_id, timeobs)
       WHERE station_id = 52981
AND timeobs = '2004-1-1 0:0:0'

Then I would also vote for improving the inteligence of the optimizer! :-)

Regards,
Kim.

Tom Lane wrote:

Phil Endecott <spam_from_postgresql_general@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
I don't see anything in there about LEFT OUTER JOIN though.  Any ideas?

Oh, I missed that part of your message.  Hmm, I think the issue is that in

D join (M join G on (M.g=G.id)) on (D.id=M.b) where D.id=nnn

the planner deduces M.b=nnn by transitivity, but when the join is an
outer join it can't make the same deduction.

[ thinks some more... ]  If we distinguished conditions that hold below
the join from those that hold above it, we could deduce that M.b=nnn can
be enforced below the join even though it might not be true above it.
There's no such mechanism in existence now, though.

A possible workaround is to generate your query like

D left join (M join G on (M.g=G.id)) on (D.id=M.b AND M.b=nnn) where D.id=nnn

but I don't know how practical that is for you.

			regards, tom lane

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