On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 01:35:16PM -0700, Steve - DND wrote: > These attempts were run at 4/21/2005 13:15:00 -07. > UTC: 4/21/2005 20:15:00 > > SELECT timeofday()::timestamp > 04/21/2005 13:15:00 > > SELECT timezone('UTC', now()) > 04/21/2005 20:15:00 PM > > SELECT timezone('UTC', timeofday()::timestamp)::timestamp without time zone > 04/21/2005 06:15:00 <- What the heck is this?! According to the "Date/Time Functions and Operators" documentation, timezone(zone, timestamp) is equivalent to "timestamp AT TIME ZONE zone", and "timestamp without time zone AT TIME ZONE zone" means "Convert local time in given time zone to UTC" and has a return type of "timestamp with time zone". It therefore seems to me that you're converting timeofday() from UTC to UTC and that the output is converted for display to your local time zone, which you then strip off. See the example in the documentation: Examples (supposing that the local time zone is PST8PDT): SELECT TIMESTAMP '2001-02-16 20:38:40' AT TIME ZONE 'MST'; Result: 2001-02-16 19:38:40-08 SELECT TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE '2001-02-16 20:38:40-05' AT TIME ZONE 'MST'; Result: 2001-02-16 18:38:40 The first example takes a zone-less time stamp and interprets it as MST time (UTC-7) to produce a UTC time stamp, which is then rotated to PST (UTC-8) for display. The second example takes a time stamp specified in EST (UTC-5) and converts it to local time in MST (UTC-7). We could rewrite the example using your values as follows: SELECT TIMESTAMP '2005-04-21 13:15:00' AT TIME ZONE 'UTC'; Result: 2005-04-21 06:15:00-07 The first example takes a zone-less time stamp and interprets it as UTC time to produce a UTC time stamp, which is then rotated to PDT (UTC-7) for display. Perhaps this is what you want: SELECT timezone('UTC', timeofday()::timestamptz); -- Michael Fuhr http://www.fuhr.org/~mfuhr/ ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)