topeakinniyi@xxxxxxxxxxx (Tope Akinniyi) writes: > I am wondering at this display of extreme Linux mentality being > displayed by the 'top bras' of the PostgreSQL community. And I ask, > are we encouraging Windows use of PostgreSQL at all? > Take a look at tools being rolled out at PgFoundry on daily basis; > all for Linux except the Windows installer. I ask myself what is > being done to encourage PostgreSQL Windows users. Nothing is > available to them except the Database and PgAdmin. No replication > tool, no this, no that. When people interested in deploying on Windows(tm) start contributing code to the projects, then the tide may "turn." Looking at what I'm working on (Slony-I), that is indeed the requirement in order for Slony-I to be supported on Windows. I don't use Windows(tm) in any context, so I lack all of all of the following prerequisites: a) Interest b) Platform knowledge c) Development tools I wouldn't oppose the notion of someone with Windows(tm) interest, Windows(tm) knowledge, and access to Windows(tm) development tools contributing support for their platform. But someone else will have to bring those things to the table. You are NOT going to be forcing me to start doing Windows(tm) development for any of my bits of the PostgreSQL software base; the only way to get my bits ported is to find some interested Windows(tm) developer. And if nobody is sufficiently interested to do so, that obviously means that there _isn't_ that much interest in supporting Windows(tm) for Slony-I. Much the same is quite likely to be true for numerous of the PgFoundry projects. > Sorry for this: Firebird provides equal tools for Linux and Windows > users. We are not the one to tell the Windows users whether they > need them. It took a LOT of years for the Windows tools to emerge; InterBase spent a number of years as a Unix-only application. > Whether Windows is bad or good; Linux is the angel and Windows the > devil is not the issue here. PostgreSQL has gone the Windows way and > must not be shown to be deficient. > > I am not holding anybody responsible, but I think we need to do a > massive re-orientation of the community not to carry the > Linux-Windows game too far. This is NOT an issue of the "goodness/badness" of Windows, and is CERTAINLY NOT a matter of Linux being considered an "angel," as numerous of the PostgreSQL developers are no more fans of Linux than they are of Windows(tm). It is nonsense to consider it some "Linux/Windows game," particularly when most of the PostgreSQL Core prefer BSD 4.4-Lite variants. [My metric there is that I have seen numerous cases of Core members who develop on FreeBSD and NetBSD, whereas I am not yet specifically aware of any that prefer Linux.] It is a matter that in order for additional applications to be deployed on Windows(tm), it is necessary to find developers that are familiar with the platform that are interested in doing the deployment. If the set of people that come from the "Windows(tm) world" are largely 'plain users' that have limited interest in helping develop improvements, then PostgreSQL will certainly remain with a STRONG Unix bias in what gets developed, and that's pretty much fair. -- let name="cbbrowne" and tld="cbbrowne.com" in String.concat "@" [name;tld];; http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linuxxian.html A VAX is virtually a computer, but not quite. ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
