-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thinking about it you may be right. I guess I'm misstaking it for something else. Too many "foxes" out here nowadays :-) To the topic: I don't argue the benefit of a native windows version from a marketing point of view (although not so from a technical point of view). As long as MS hasn't filed a chapter 11 the rest of the world will have to deal with them. Therefor a native windows version is possibly the only way to make postgresql more popular and sneak it into the one or other fortune 500 company. On Tuesday 08 March 2005 09:02 pm, Edwin New wrote: > I don't want to split hairs, but wasn't Firebird originally Interbase? If > so, you'll find it was originally a *nix product before it was a Windows > database (back in the Ashton-Tate days for those with long memories). > > Edwin New. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Uwe C. Schroeder [mailto:uwe@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2005 3:49 PM > To: pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: PostgreSQL still for Linux only? > > On Tuesday 08 March 2005 07:24 pm, Tope Akinniyi wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am wondering at this display of extreme Linux mentality being displayed > > by the 'top bras' of the PostgreSQL community. And I ask, are we > > encouraging Windows use of PostgreSQL at all? > > > > Take a look at tools being rolled out at PgFoundry on daily basis; all > > for Linux except the Windows installer. I ask myself what is being done > > to encourage PostgreSQL Windows users. Nothing is available to them > > except the Database and PgAdmin. No replication tool, no this, no that. > > To be honest - I wouldn't encourage the use of PostgreSQL on Win. > Neither would I for any database or data warehouse application (which > probably > is why SAP put onto their website that they prefer linux to windows > platforms). > I think it could even damage the quite good reputation of PostgreSQL - if > your > windows box crashes and takes the DB with it - most likely it's not the > fault > of a lousy OS, nor the fault of an incompetent sysadmin who forgot to make > backups - it will be this "shitty" free database system that's to blame. > > I wrote quite some software that uses postgresql - never would I tell any > customer that he could now run it on windows. As a matter of fact I put > code > > like: > > if os="win" { > errormessage("this software is not ported to windows yet"); > exit(99); > } > > into the startup routine - just to make it impossible for the customer to > run > it on windows. > > > I was troubled when CommandPrompt, the leading Windows support provider > > responded to a post that their plPHP is for Linux only. > > > > Sorry for this: Firebird provides equal tools for Linux and Windows > > users. > > > We are not the one to tell the Windows users whether they need them. > > Firebird was a DOS ISAM DB. It just made it's way to *nix a couple years > ago. > > > Whether Windows is bad or good; Linux is the angel and Windows the devil > > is > > > not the issue here. PostgreSQL has gone the Windows way and must not be > > shown to be deficient. > > The problem is, that it's a question of perception. Most windows fans don't > see that "their" OS is pretty instable. So it's not a question if the > community can do anything to make PostgreSQL look deficient - it's a > question > of what people do with it on Win. I had a similar case recently with a > customer: His MS Office suite crashed at least 3 times a day. So I switched > him to OpenOffice. Now OO crashed once after a month of perfect operation - > guess what, the customer is back to MS Office because OO crashed on him and > MS has this new version that's sooo much better. Call it dumb - but that's > how a lot of people are. Well, he paid a couple $k to get new licenses and > is > back where he was a month ago. > > > I am not holding anybody responsible, but I think we need to do a massive > > re-orientation of the community not to carry the Linux-Windows game too > > far. > > It's just a fact: any unix is a better platform for databases than windows. > Windows was designed (and mostly still is) as a Desktop operating system - > and it's fairly good on the desktop. Never trust a server that needs a > mouse > > attached to operate properly. Unix was designed with scalability, stability > and multiuser-operation in mind - and that's what it's good at. I wouldn't > want my payroll on a windows box - much less my company data. > > UC - -- UC - -- Open Source Solutions 4U, LLC 2570 Fleetwood Drive Phone: +1 650 872 2425 San Bruno, CA 94066 Cell: +1 650 302 2405 United States Fax: +1 650 872 2417 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCLpKajqGXBvRToM4RAjb7AJ96fllQAqY6g6y3XxBzRi682+BvAgCg0XWx /a9Y4VNCmPUlZQ+xlj1ZmJw= =cHVW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
