Hello! Clay Shirky made a comment about MySQL that I thought the PostgreSQL community should be aware of: http://www.shirky.com/writings/situated_software.html It's the section (mostly toward the bottom) entitled, "The Nature of Programming, and the Curious Case of MySQL". The whole article is, as normal, interesting and thought-provoking. [Please, Shirky wrote this, not me; however, if he's thinking it, we should know.] B-) ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend