I think you have created a statement level trigger (If they existed in 7.4.7...) by not including FOR EACH ROW in your create statement. In statement level triggers, there is no OLD or NEW. >>> Rick Casey <rick.casey@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 02/24/05 1:22 PM >>> Hello all, I am trying to a simple thing: create a log history of deletes, and updates; but which I am having trouble getting to work in PG 7.4.7 (under Debian Linux 2.6.8). I have reduced my code to the following trivial case: Here is the code that creates the delete trigger: create trigger PEDIGREES_hist_del_trig AFTER DELETE on PEDIGREES EXECUTE PROCEDURE logPedigreesDel(); Here is the trigger code: (famindid is an integer field in the Pedigrees table): CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION logPedigreesDel() RETURNS TRIGGER AS ' DECLARE test integer; begin test := OLD.famindid; RAISE EXCEPTION ''OLD.famindid = '', test; return OLD; end; ' LANGUAGE plpgsql; Here is the error message returned: psql:testphdtrig.sql:1: ERROR: record "old" is not assigned yet DETAIL: The tuple structure of a not-yet-assigned record is indeterminate. CONTEXT: PL/pgSQL function "logpedigreesdel" line 4 at assignment Would *really appreciate* any suggestions! This could help us decide whether to PostGres for a major project... thanks --rick ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)