I downloaded the native Windows 8.0.1 installer and sorted through the various Windows permissions problems by running the Installer as an admin but not creating a cluster. Then I log out and log back in as the limited "postgres" user and run initdb.exe from the command line. Initdb creates the data folder and everything seems to be going well until just after "initializing pg_depend ... ok". The next lines are: ----- creating system views ... FATAL: unrecognized node type: 653 child process was terminated by signal 1 initdb: removing contents of data directory ----- What am I doing wrong? This installation is on Windows 2000 Pro running inside Virtual PC 6 on the Macintosh (10.3.8). I've searched all over the web but have found nothing that refers to this error code. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! Scott _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)