On 2023-11-20 02:59 +00:00 GMT, "Erik Wienhold" <ewie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 2023-11-19 21:37 +0100, PGUser2020 wrote:
>
> Technically speaking, UTF-8 is an 8-bit encoding. But I guess that
> application would then show mojibake if UTF-8 were stored.
>
Yes sorry, I should have said single byte rather than 8 bit. There must be no possibility that a single character occupies more than one byte as the (e.g.) varchar(10) and char(5) fields overflow lengths otherwise.
>
> Do you have to use existing Latin-9 text columns to store UTF-8? If not
> then I'd go with bytea instead of text (varchar) if possible and also
> supported by your client. Otherwise it may be difficult to distinguish
> between "normal" Latin-9 text and the hex- or base64-encoded UTF-8.
> Although bytea could also store anything, not just UTF-8, so you'd have
> to deal with invalid data anyway.
>
I do have to use existing columns yes, and they are varchar latin9 columns.
> Is the same client sending and reading that data? If yes, why can't the
> client do the hex-encoding of the UTF-8 string and only send/read those
> encoded strings so that database won't event see UTF-8? Why must the
> database be involved in this custom encoding scheme instead of just
> storing BLOBs (either as bytea or some encoded text)?
>
So one of the external clients applications which is interacting with this database will do just that -- it will make a hex string from its utf8 input and store that in a varchar
>
> The client can disable encoding conversion by setting client_encoding to
> sql_ascii:
>
> latin9_test=# show server_encoding;
> server_encoding
> -----------------
> LATIN9
> (1 row)
>
> latin9_test=# set client_encoding to sql_ascii;
> SET
> latin9_test=# show client_encoding;
> client_encoding
> -----------------
> SQL_ASCII
> (1 row)
>
> latin9_test=# select convert_from(decode('ceb120ceb220ceb320ceb420ceb520cf83cf84', 'hex'), 'sql_ascii');
> convert_from
> ---------------------
> α β γ δ ε στ
> (1 row)
>
> Maybe that's also an option for your client.
>
It is very useful and exactly what I was looking for thanks.
This technique should allow me to create a login, mask a table with a view containing this decode, and use search_path to get the view returned in preference to the base table.
