Am Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 01:33:41PM +0200 schrieb Francisco Olarte: > > > > This the part that's always eluded me: How does the client, the > > > > UPSERTer, come to hold an id and not know whether or not it's already in > > > > the database. > > > > > > This is extremely easy to do if you have natural instead of surrogate keys. > > > > > > I work in telephony, upserting the last incoming call timestamp for a > > > phone number will be exactly that. > > > > timezones ? > > DST ? > > A timestamp is a point in the time line, this is what I insert, just a > real number marking a line, timezones and dst are presentation stuff. Indeed, as is the assumption which time line the numbers are referring to. Hence the incoming call timestamp is usable as a (natural) PK with respect to a given time line only, right? > > spoofing ? > > ¿ Of what ? The time stamp. But then I assume that is obtained on the logging system. All I really wanted to hint at is that "incoming call timestamp" may work pretty well in given settings but does not _always_ make for a "unique enough" key. Karsten -- GPG 40BE 5B0E C98E 1713 AFA6 5BC0 3BEA AC80 7D4F C89B