On Fri, 7 Apr 2023, Telium Technical Support wrote: >Notice: extra pg_ctl/postgres options given, bypassing systemctl for stop >it might be 13. Coincidentally, there is a postmaster.pid file in a >directory OTHER than the data directory: > >/var/lib/postgresql/15/main/postmaster.pid > >(and notice the 15). Is this a clue? Maybe the pidfile is written into the cluster version-based directory instead of the data directory. Best figure out what exactly writes the pidfile, whether systemd is used for starting (which would of course be a prime suspect as it says it’s explicitly not used for stopping), etc. Maybe this is indeed a bug in whatever determines the pidfile path, perhaps not; is it supposed to live within the data directory? bye, //mirabilos -- 15:41⎜<Lo-lan-do:#fusionforge> Somebody write a testsuite for helloworld :-)