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Re: [EXT] Re: Looking for tips on improving full-text search quality in Postgres

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Can you define what "high quality" is?

Are you referring to precision? Or recall? Or speed? Or query dialect?

On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 8:59 PM Bayer, Samuel <sam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks for replying. My problem is that I can't provide enough guidance on what isn't working, because (a) I don't have good enough intuitions about how the normalization options are expected to affect the results, and (b) I can't identify a specific missing function - I'm just observing that I can't make the results as high-quality as Solr.
>
> My apologies.
>
> Sam
>
> On 3/4/22 10:25 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 08:10:48AM -0500, Bayer, Samuel wrote:
> >> Hi all -
> >>
> >> When I have a need for both sophisticated database querying and
> >> full-text search, I'd rather not stand up a technology stack with
> >> multiple tools (e.g., Postgres and Apache Solr, or Postgres and
> >> ElasticSearch with a zomboDB bridge). So I've been looking at the
> >> Postgres full-text search capability, and comparing it to Apache
> >> Solr. My experience so far - which has not been entirely anecdotal,
> >> but hasn't amounted to a formal TREC-style evaluation - is that
> >> Postgres full-text search, in any ranking/normalization configuration
> >> I can create, is reliably worse than Solr. Now, I understand that the
> >> whole point of Solr is search, and this is a sideline for Postgres,
> >> but I'd like to figure out how close Postgres can get, and while I'm
> >> knowledgeable about search technologies, I'm not an expert. And I've
> >> looked for information on the Web about comparing Postgres search
> >> to other search capabilities, and everything I've found so far is
> >> extremely basic.
> >>
> >> Does anybody have any pointers to resources (people, sites, journal
> >> articles, blogs, etc.) which are deeply knowledgeable about this
> >> comparison?
> >
> > Uh, most of our full text seach is done by Russian developers, who are
> > obviously very good at it.  It would be helpful if you could list
> > exactly what is missing and then we can have a discussion the hackers
> > list to see what is possible.  I think it would be helpful  if we just
> > document what we _don't_ have.
> >
>
>


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