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Re: Can we go beyond the standard to make Postgres radically better?

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On 2/12/22 13:17, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
On 2022-02-12 20:50:57 +0100, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
On 2022-02-12 01:18:04 +0100, Andreas 'ads' Scherbaum wrote:
On 10/02/2022 18:22, Peter J. Holzer wrote:
On 2022-02-09 21:14:39 -0800, Guyren Howe wrote:
Examples of small things Postgres could have:

    • SELECT * - b.a_id from a natural join b

My use case for such a feature are tables which contain one column (or a
small number of columns) which you usually don't want to select: A bytea
column or a very wide text column. In a program I don't mind (in fact I
prefer) listing all the columns explicitely, but exploring a database
interactively with psql typing lots of column names is tedious
(especially since autocomplete doesn't work here).

Maybe for this specific use case it's easier to teach psql how to do that,
[...]
I think the easiest way to get the columns would be to EXPLAIN(verbose)
the query. Otherwise psql (or whatever your shell is) would have to
completely parse the SQL statement to find the columns.

A shell could also provide an "expand select list" function using
explain.

In fact, you can sort of do that manually:

1) Prefix your query with explain(verbose)
2) Copy the "Output:" line of the top node.
3) Edit your query, remove the explain(verbose) and replace the select
list with the content of the clipboard
4) (optional) remove any unwanted columns

Or:

\pset format csv

select * from cell_per limit 0;

line_id,category,cell_per,ts_insert,ts_update,user_insert,user_update,plant_type,season,short_category

Longer version:

\pset format unaligned
\pset fieldsep ','

select * from cell_per  limit 0;
line_id,category,cell_per,ts_insert,ts_update,user_insert,user_update,plant_type,season,short_category
(0 rows)



A bit cumbersome but less cumbersome than typing/copying lots of column
names from the result of a previous query or \d.

         hp



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Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx





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