On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 06:49 Raymond Brinzer <ray.brinzer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 9:06 AM Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I've long thought that there is more algebraic type syntax sitting > > underneath SQL yearning to get out. ... > Now, if this sort of thing suits the way you think, I say, "Great!" > I'm glad you have a language which suits you. For me, it's too rigid; > it assumes too much about what I might want to say. I wouldn't > program in a language like this, or use a shell like this. I don't > want to write database queries like this. I do, because it's how I > get to talk to the awesome toy in the background, but it always > chafes. This thread strikes home because I've long used my favorite language, Raku (and Perl before that) as a powerful glue language to generate code in several languages I was forced to use and maintain during my working years including FORTRAN, C, C++, PostScript, and SQL. I still generate a lot of PostScript, but Raku has made it *much* easier. Most recently I've used Raku modules for both ORM and procedural interfaces to PostgreSQL, but with Raku's powerful grammar capability a dedicated user can write his own language interface if he wishes. In addition, Raku has a native C and C++ interface to ease using PostgreSQL compiled code when necessary. Best regards, -Tom P.S. See <https://raku.org> as a starting place for Raku.