On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:08 PM Tory M Blue <tmblue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 1:36 PM Tom Lane <tgl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Tory M Blue <tmblue@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 12 will not start at 10GB, even though it's the same hardware, same config
> file, same physical box, same everything, just version 12 vs 9.5
For me, using all-default settings (in particular, shared_buffers =
128MB), the shared memory block is about 141.6MB using 9.5 and 142.1MB
using 12. So there's half a meg or so of additional data in v12, but
certainly not gigabytes worth.
Are you trying to start both postmasters concurrently? Maybe you're
hitting some kernel limit on the total amount of shared memory in the
system.
regards, tom laneOkay the one difference I see in settings is this little gem in 12..
shared_memory_type mmap
Otherwise i'm not seeing a ton of other settings not common between them,.This is the only major difference I'm seeing, as it's really not an option in 9.5..... Appears 9.5 was using
shared_memory_type(enum)Specifies the shared memory implementation that the server should use for the main shared memory region that holds PostgreSQL's shared buffers and other shared data. Possible values are
mmap(for anonymous shared memory allocated usingmmap),sysv(for System V shared memory allocated viashmget) andwindows(for Windows shared memory). Not all values are supported on all platforms; the first supported option is the default for that platform. The use of thesysvoption, which is not the default on any platform, is generally discouraged because it typically requires non-default kernel settings to allow for large allocations (see Section 18.4.1).
That didn't help.
May 11 19:46:13 qdb03.prod.ca postmaster[31048]: < 2020-05-11 19:46:13.026 PDT >DETAIL: Failed system call was shmget(key=5432001, size=11026235392, 03600).
May 11 19:46:13 qdb03.prod.ca postmaster[31048]: < 2020-05-11 19:46:13.026 PDT >HINT: This error usually means that PostgreSQL's request for a shared memory segm
May 11 19:46:13 qdb03.prod.ca postmaster[31048]: The PostgreSQL documentation contains more information about shared memory configuration.
Attempted to change ;
#shared_memory_type = 'sysv'
It took the change but didn't help. So 10GB of shared_buffers in 12 is still a no go. I'm down to 5GB and it works, but this is the same hardware, the same exact 9.5 configuration. So I'm missing something. WE have not had to mess with kernel memory settings since 9.4, so this is an odd one.
I'll keep digging, but i'm hesitant to do my multiple TB db's with half of their shared buffer configs, until I understand what 12 is doing differently than 9.5
Thanks again for the ideas
Tory
