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Re: POSTGRES_FSM_RELATIONS CRITICAL: DB control fsm relations used: 79569 of 80000 (99%)

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On 5/28/19 2:53 PM, Julie Nishimura wrote:
Please post to list also.
Ccing list
I am sorry, did not mean to send it yet.
#------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# RESOURCE USAGE (except WAL)
#------------------------------------------------------------------------------

# - Memory -

shared_buffers = 16GB                   # min 128kB or max_connections*16kB
                                         # (change requires restart)
temp_buffers = 8MB                      # min 800kB
#max_prepared_transactions = 5          # can be 0 or more
                                         # (change requires restart)
# Note:  Increasing max_prepared_transactions costs ~600 bytes of shared memory
# per transaction slot, plus lock space (see max_locks_per_transaction).
work_mem = 256MB                                # min 64kB
maintenance_work_mem = 512MB            # min 1MB
max_stack_depth = 4MB                   # min 100kB

# - Free Space Map -

max_fsm_pages = 6000000
                                         # (change requires restart)
max_fsm_relations = 80000
#------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# WRITE AHEAD LOG
#------------------------------------------------------------------------------

# - Settings -
wal_buffers = 4096kB

# - Free Space Map -

max_fsm_pages = 6000000
                                         # (change requires restart)
max_fsm_relations = 80000

Seems like the system has 98 gb, and shared_buffers set to 16 gb, so if we increase max_fsm_relations to 100000, should be still enough memory to start, right?

Thank you!

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*From:* Julie Nishimura <juliezain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:49 PM
*To:* Adrian Klaver
*Subject:* Re: POSTGRES_FSM_RELATIONS CRITICAL: DB control fsm relations used: 79569 of 80000 (99%)


Adrian,
Thanks for your help. It seems like the system has 98 gb memory on the server overall

max_connections = 300

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*From:* Julie Nishimura <juliezain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:34 PM
*To:* Adrian Klaver
*Subject:* Re: POSTGRES_FSM_RELATIONS CRITICAL: DB control fsm relations used: 79569 of 80000 (99%)
We haven't yet, still waiting for the approval from our management

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*From:* Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2019 2:11 PM
*To:* Julie Nishimura
*Subject:* Re: POSTGRES_FSM_RELATIONS CRITICAL: DB control fsm relations used: 79569 of 80000 (99%)
On 5/28/19 2:03 PM, Julie Nishimura wrote:
Adrian, I am trying to avoid to do any tweaking to this legacy system that nobody knows well (we inherited it recently).

Yeah, but you already tweaked it, so it is useful to know what the
repercussions might be.

Do you think it might help if we possibly drop old tables (I assume their indices will be removed too), so the overall number of objects will go down? Thanks a lot

Yes. Just not sure when that will happen.


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*From:* Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:43 PM
*To:* Julie Nishimura; pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; pgsql-general
*Subject:* Re: POSTGRES_FSM_RELATIONS CRITICAL: DB control fsm relations used: 79569 of 80000 (99%)
On 5/28/19 11:20 AM, Julie Nishimura wrote:
What is the impact of fsm_relatiosn being maxed out?


It has been awhile since I thought about this as these settings are no
longer relevant as of 8.4:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/release-8-4.html

"

Track free space in separate per-relation "fork" files (Heikki)

Free space discovered by VACUUM is now recorded in *_fsm files, rather
than in a fixed-sized shared memory area. The max_fsm_pages and
max_fsm_relations settings have been removed, greatly simplifying
administration of free space management.
"

To get to your question, I would take a look at:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/runtime-config-resource.html#RUNTIME-CONFIG-RESOURCE-FSM

Pay attention to the embedded link in the above:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/kernel-resources.html#SYSVIPC


--
Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx


--
Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx


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Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx





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