Re: Code of Conduct plan

Dave Page <dpage@xxxxxxxxxxx> · Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:14:26 +0100

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    On 09/14/2018 01:31 AM, Chris Travers
      wrote:

            I
              apologize for the glacial slowness with which this has all
              been moving.

              The core team has now agreed to some revisions to the
              draft CoC based on

              the comments in this thread; see

              https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct

              (That's the updated text, but you can use the diff tool on
              the page

              history tab to see the changes from the previous draft.)

            I really have to object to this addition:
            "This
                Code is meant to cover all interaction between community
                members, whether or not it takes place within postgresql.org
                infrastructure, so long as there is not another Code of
                Conduct that takes precedence (such as a conference's
                Code of Conduct)."

            That covers things like public twitter messages over
              live political controversies which might not be personally
              directed.   At least if one is going to go that route, one
              ought to *also* include a safe harbor for
              non-personally-directed discussions of philosophy, social
              issues, and politics.  Otherwise, I think this is asking
              for trouble.  See, for example, what happened with
              Opalgate and how this could be seen to encourage use of
              this to silence political controversies unrelated to
              PostgreSQL.

    I think this is a complicated issue. On the one hand, postgresql.org
    has no business telling people how to act outside of postgresql.org.
    Full stop.

I'm going to regret jumping in here, but...

I disagree. If a community member decides to join forums for other software and then strongly promotes PostgreSQL to the point that they become abusive or offensive to people making other software choices, then they are clearly bringing the project into disrepute and we should have every right to sanction them by preventing them participating in our project in whatever ways are deemed appropriate. 

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