## note: these are my personal opinions and views On 6/3/18 11:29, Tom Lane wrote: > We are now asking for a final round of community comments. > Please send any public comments to the pgsql-general list (only). > If you wish to make a private comment, you may send it to > coc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx. This email thread is so long that it's easy to spend more time on the emails than the CoC itself! My main feedback on the CoC is that it doesn't really say anything about what to do if the complaint is against a core team member. This was mentioned elsewhere in the email thread and I'm a bit surprised there's nothing explicit in the CoC. If someone feels they have been treated in a grossly inappropriate manner by a core team member, is it worthwhile to report this? I think they'd want to know a little more about what the process will be for that special case. I haven't reviewed CoC's from other open source projects recently, but sexual harassment policies at non-technical organizations where I volunteer do explicitly cover the case of complaints against leaders. So maybe it's a gap worth closing. The sorts of issues that would be addressed here certainly are complicated. I remember not too long ago when Brendan Eich was pressured to resign as CEO of Mozilla (after only 11 days iirc) because he had a particular political view unrelated to technology. I also think there might be some merit to Lutz Horn's point about western bias in CoCs; we should note concerns about propagating those values. (This isn't new; e.g. Pope Francis called it ideological colonization in the news.) The Mozilla case is not directly related to a CoC but it's still interesting as it touches on how complicated these conversations can become. https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/05/faq-on-ceo-resignation/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2014/04/11/did-mozilla-ceo-brendan-eich-deserve-to-be-removed-from-his-position-due-to-his-support-for-proposition-8/ Overall, having a CoC seems to me like a good thing to do. My interactions with leaders in the PostgreSQL have been positive and it feels like they will be good stewards of a CoC. I'm looking forward to seeing one adopted. -Jeremy ## note: these are my personal opinions and views -- Jeremy Schneider Database Engineer Amazon Web Services
