> On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Chris Travers <chris.travers@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:42 PM, James Keener <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> The question is: how can you (honestly) make people feel like we'll take >>> complaints seriously, while also not allowing for the politics that I've >>> seen surround recent incarnations of Codes of Conduct? > >> At the end I see signals in the current CoC that make me hopeful. Phrases >> like "common interest" occur. There are some minor changes I think would >> help avoid problems. But they aren't big deals. The big thing is I trust >> our community not to exclude people based, for example, on political or >> cultural perspectives and thats really important. > > The one thing that gives me any hope of success is that this has > historically been an apolitical community, so that these sorts of problems > don't naturally arise. As long as it stays that way, I think a CoC can > work to smooth out edge-case situations. I tend to agree that a CoC > could not fix tensions in a community that naturally needs to deal with > political or religious issues. If someone tries to inflame political or > religious feelings among the PG community, I hope we have the sense to > walk away. (Maybe we could put something in the CoC about that, but > I have the sense that it'd do more harm than good.) I would say that the ethos of the community cannot be codified, but is something the community leaders must continue to exemplify. Jonathan
