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Re: [MASSMAIL]Re: Code of Conduct plan

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O.K,

Remember my Country Please!!!!.


El 2018-06-05 11:29, Joshua D. Drake escribió:
On 06/05/2018 07:45 AM, Chris Travers wrote:

    It is my hope that PostgreSQL.Org -Core chooses members for that
committee that are exceedingly diverse otherwise it is just an echo chamber for a single ideology and that will destroy this community.


If I may suggest:  The committee should be international as well and include people from around the world.  The last thing we want is for it to be dominated by people from one particular cultural viewpoint.


+1


    "considered offensive by fellow members"

    Is definitely too broad. The problem comes in here:

        I might possibly say that "I'm the master in this area" when
        talking to someone on a technical subject.  In the sense that
        I'm better at that particular skill, but some hypersensitive
        American could get their knickers in a twist (notice, that in
        this context, no gender is implied -- also in using that that
        expression "get their knickers in a twist" could offend some
        snowflake) claiming that I'm suggesting that whoever


    "snowflake", I find that term hilarious others find it highly
    offensive. Which is correct?


I agree with both concerns in the above exchange.

This is an economic common project.  The goal should be for people to come together and act civilly.  Waging culture war using the code of conduct itself should be a violation of the code of conduct and this goes on *all* (not just one or two) sides.


[snip]


    Yes and that is a problem. We need to have some simple barrier of
acceptance that we are all adults here (or should act like adults).
    Knowing your audience is important.


I would point out also that the PostgreSQL community is nice and mature.  At PGConf US I saw what appeared to be two individuals with red MAGA hats.  And yet everyone managed to be civil.  We manage to do better than the US does on the whole in this regard and we should be proud of ourselves.

To be fair, those were South Africans but yes, nobody gave them any
public grief as far as I know.


Correct. I think one way to look at all of this is, "if you wouldn't
    say it to your boss or a client don't say it here". That too has
    problems but generally speaking I think it keeps the restrictions
    rational.


I will post a more specific set of thoughts here but in general I think the presumption ought to be that people are trying to work together. Misunderstanding can happen.  But let's try to act in a collegial and generally respectful way around eachother.

+1

JD




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