On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:02:39 +0000 Vikas Sharma <shavikas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Max count is one way (vague I agree), before confirming I will ask the > application owner to have a look on data in tables as well. Maybe you could compare your tables on both sides using a tool like pg_comparator? See: https://cri.ensmp.fr/people/coelho/pg_comparator/pg_comparator.html By the way, what are you using for your auto-failover? What went wrong to end-up with a split brain situation? Regards, > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 17:55 Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 04/10/2018 09:47 AM, Vikas Sharma wrote: > > > Thanks Adrian and Edison, I also think so. At the moment I have 2 > > > masters, as soon as slave is promoted to master it starts its own > > > timeline and application might have added data to either of them or > > > both, only way to find out correct master now is the instance with max > > > count of data in tables which could incur data loss as well. Correct me > > > if wrong please? > > > > Not sure max count is necessarily a valid indicator: > > > > 1) What if there was a legitimate large delete process? > > > > 2) The application/end users where looking at two different views of the > > data at different points in time. Just because the count is higher does > > not mean the data is actually valid. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Vikas > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 17:29 Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > <mailto:adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > > > > > On 04/10/2018 08:04 AM, Vikas Sharma wrote: > > > > Hi Adrian, > > > > > > > > This can be a good example: Application server e.g. tomcat having > > two > > > > entries to connect to databases, one for master and 2nd for Slave > > > > (ideally used when slave becomes master). If application is not > > > able to > > > > connect to first, it will try to connect to 2nd. > > > > > > So the application server had a way of seeing the new master(old > > slave), > > > in spite of the network glitch, that the original master database > > > did not? > > > > > > If so and it was distributing data between the two masters on an > > unknown > > > schedule, then as Edison pointed out in another post, you really > > have a > > > split brain issue. Each master would have it's own view of the data > > and > > > latest update would really only be relevant for that master. > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Vikas > > > > > > > > On 10 April 2018 at 15:26, Adrian Klaver > > > <adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > <mailto:adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > <mailto:adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 04/10/2018 06:50 AM, Vikas Sharma wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > We have postgresql 9.5 with streaming > > > replication(Master-slave) > > > > and automatic failover. Due to network glitch we are in > > > > master-master situation for quite some time. Please, > > > could you > > > > advise best way to confirm which node is latest in terms > > of > > > > updates to the postgres databases. > > > > > > > > > > > > It might help to know how the two masters received data when > > they > > > > where operating independently. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Vikas Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Adrian Klaver > > > > adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > <mailto:adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Adrian Klaver > > > adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > -- > > Adrian Klaver > > adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx > > -- Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais Dalibo