On 19 February 2018 at 16:17, David Steele <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > I did come up with a sort of Rube Goldberg-esque workaround for now >> > involving using a clone of the prod standby VM from Veeam backup to use >> > as the backup source (after stopping recovery and opening it as a >> > standalone DB). >> >> You don't get PITR that way, of course, but at least it's a backup. As >> long as your clone is consistent. >> >> >> Yes it's a crash-consistent snapshot-based backup. I've done quite a few >> restores from it and it works great. It can do PITR as well since I >> would have all the WAL files from prod needed to keep recovering. But >> for these cases I just recover it to the first consistent point and open >> it for testing (or backups in this case). > > I don't think it would be safe to do PITR on a backup taken in this way. If you have all the WAL files, then it would be safe. > The WAL diverges even if you suppress a timeline switch. Which is exactly why we have timelines. -- Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services