On 04/05/2017 07:14 AM, vinny wrote:
On 2017-04-05 15:11, Vincent Veyron wrote:
On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 12:01:24 +0200
vinny <vinny@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Every time I tell someone about the mailinglists I then have to explain
how they can subscribe, how to create folders, filters etc. And more
often than not
they just say forget it and go to some forum.
On forums, all you see is the header for the discussion, and the
number of messages attached to it.
It makes it much more difficult to follow discussions, because you
don't know if there are new messages or not, unless you memorized how
many were there the last time you looked at it. And even then, you
can't tell whether you even read them previously or not, which a
mailing list will tell you, because the messages are marked.
It depends entirely on which forum software you use.
If keeping track of read messages is a requirement then you would obviously
use a forum that does that for you.
But again, I'm not saying the mailinglist should be replaced by a forum.
What I'm saying is that many users find forums a lot easier to use and
give the choice,
they will opt for the forum. Hence it makes sense to provide something
for those users,
if there is the manpower to do so.
Can you expect Joe
Average to do something like that
if they want to get more involved in PgSQL?
How hard is it to subscribe, create a folder and a filter? If that is
too involved, I don't see how they can get involved in postgres
anyway.
That might be true if you are talking about contributors, sure, but
we're not.
Or at least, I'm not, and I guess that's where I'm mistaking. Perhaps
the mailinglists
are the way they are to encourage the more serious users to use them,
and keep everyday questions out a little.
Everyday questions appear here all the time, so that is not the
motivation. It is more that Postgres is a complex piece of software and
questions/answers work better in the mailing list work flow then a
forum. The added benefit is that the list is a tremendous resource and
you will find many of your questions answered by just monitoring the
list. There are days that the --general is really busy, but most times
it very manageable, especially if you apply the eyeball filter to
topics:) If someone wants to just drop in for a single question there is
the IRC channel:
https://www.postgresql.org/community/irc/
or Stackoverflow:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/postgresql
That would be fine too, but don't put it like "if you this is too much
work, you shouldn't be using postgresql".
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