On Wednesday 08 March 2017 00:01:32 Tom Lane wrote: > John Iliffe <john.iliffe@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > Now, running as user postgres I try and start as stated in the manual > > postgres -D /usr/pgsql_tablespaces > > > > The result is: > > [postgres@prod04 postgresql-9.6.2]$ postgres -D /usr/pgsql_tablespaces > > LOG: could not bind IPv4 socket: Cannot assign requested address > > HINT: Is another postmaster already running on port 5432? If not, > > wait a few seconds and retry. > > LOG: database system was shut down at 2017-03-07 22:22:57 EST > > LOG: MultiXact member wraparound protections are now enabled > > LOG: database system is ready to accept connections > > LOG: autovacuum launcher started > > To clarify: the postmaster *is* starting here. It failed to bind to the > IPv4 port 5432, but it must have succeeded in binding to at least one > other port (IPv6 and/or a Unix socket), else it would have stopped and > you'd have not seen the last four log lines. > > It might be helpful to check with lsof to see what the postmaster > process has open after you do this. > I noticed that when I deleted the postmaster.pid file as suggested by another answer and restarted that process issued a lot more messages before crashing :-( Still couldn't connect to port 5432 though. ------------------------------- [postgres@prod04 John]$ pg_ctl start -D /usr/pgsql_tablespaces could not change directory to "/home/John": Permission denied server starting [postgres@prod04 John]$ LOG: could not bind IPv4 socket: Cannot assign requested address HINT: Is another postmaster already running on port 5432? If not, wait a few seconds and retry. LOG: database system was interrupted; last known up at 2017-03-08 09:42:16 EST LOG: database system was not properly shut down; automatic recovery in progress LOG: invalid record length at 0/1561138: wanted 24, got 0 LOG: redo is not required LOG: MultiXact member wraparound protections are now enabled LOG: database system is ready to accept connections LOG: autovacuum launcher started ----------------------------- so I corrected the initial error by changing to the bin directory and starting again, after removing the postmaster.pid file. Same result. lsof says that there is nothing assigned to postmaster at this time. I did manage to get a clean stop this time; no remaining pid file. > > I checked with lsof and there is no process bound to socket 5432. > > There is no entry in /var/run for a socket related to postgresql. > > With the default configure options you used, the postmaster would have > put its Unix socket file into /tmp, not /var/run. I wonder whether > your problem is that you're trying to connect to it with > distro-supplied psql+libpq that expects to find the Unix socket in > /var/run. > Yes. socket file and also lock file were there. I'll fix that in config, BUT in the original case they weren't there. srwxrwxrwx. 1 postgres postgres 0 Mar 8 10:10 .s.PGSQL.5432 -rw-------. 1 postgres postgres 49 Mar 8 10:10 .s.PGSQL.5432.lock Still, the first lines of the log are the same; can't connect to socket 5432. The following processes show up in ps root 1149 1136 0 10:18 pts/1 00:00:00 su postgres postgres 1150 1149 0 10:18 pts/1 00:00:00 bash postgres 1230 1 0 10:26 pts/1 00:00:00 /usr/postgres-9.6.2/bin/postgres -D /usr/pgsql_tablespaces postgres 1232 1230 0 10:26 ? 00:00:00 postgres: checkpointer process postgres 1233 1230 0 10:26 ? 00:00:00 postgres: writer process postgres 1234 1230 0 10:26 ? 00:00:00 postgres: wal writer process postgres 1235 1230 0 10:26 ? 00:00:00 postgres: autovacuum launcher process postgres 1236 1230 0 10:26 ? 00:00:00 postgres: stats collector process ---------------------------- > > One thing that I haven't been able to find any the log files. Where > > are they normally stored? > > They seem to be showing up on postmaster's stderr (ie, your terminal) > which again is the vanilla-configuration default if you didn't do > anything to edit the postgresql.conf settings. > > I suspect that you're used to the behavior of a vendor-configured > postgres package and have not taken the steps needed to make a build > from source behave the same way. Recommend looking into what patches > the vendor package applies and what configure options are used. > No, actually I have been using postgresql since about 2007, always from manual installs. Just never needed to ask a question before! I run a small publishing business specializing an Amateur Radio training and we rely on these databases to run just about everything from sales to user support to accounting. At the moment the old server is on pgsql 9.2.1 which is about 5 years old. I almost never use the distro supplied application software because I've had problems with automatic updates making everything fail and no idea what happened. This way the applications are where I put them and I know when there is an update. FYI, my core skills are emphatically NOT as a sysadmin or system programmer! > Having said all that, it's very un-obvious why you're failing to bind > to the IPv4 socket. If there's no active postmaster on the machine, > that should be free. I could believe SELinux blocking it, except that > the targeted SELinux policy shouldn't constrain a manually-started > postmaster at all --- not to mention that you're in permissive mode. > Seems like the answer must be elsewhere. > > You didn't mention what platform you're on, but the reference to SELinux > makes me think it's probably Red Hat. A bit of digging in RH's support > portal turns up a few mentions of kernel bugs causing unexpected > EADDRNOTAVAIL errors, which matches this symptom ... so how up-to-date > is this server? > Good guess but no prize! I am on Fedora 25, downloaded and installed last Saturday (4 March) and then patched to the current levels with dnf before I started to do the application software installation. > regards, tom lane Hi Tom: First, thanks for the very detailed explanation. Please see answers embedded above. Anyhow, given the suggestions that I have received, I decided to start with a clean system, so I shut down postmaster using pg_ctl stop, checked that the socket, lock, and pid files were deleted, and rebooted the server. Same result unfortunately. John -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general