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2017-01-04 20:22 GMT+01:00 Jerry Sievers <gsievers19@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
marcin kowalski <yoshi314@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

> I am experiencing an odd issue, i've noticed it on 9.3 , but i can reproduce it on 9.6.
>
> Basically, i have a database with a lot of schemas, but not that much data. Each schema is maybe 2-4 GB in size, and often much less than that.
>
> The database has ~300-500 schemas, each with ~100-300 tables. Generally a few hundred thousand tables total. Entire cluster has 2 or 3 such databases.
>
> As the amount of tables grows, the time it takes to vacuum an _empty_ table grows as well. The table is in public schema, and it is the only table there.

I presume since vacuum then has much larger catalogs to query as if to
find indexes and related toast tables to process along with your table
of interest.

> I made a simple testing script to make sure that these things are related. I set up a blank database, create a table with one column in public and restore one schema.
> Then i vacuum that table three times, measure the execution times and repeat the process, adding another schema to db.
>
> At ~200 tables it takes ~100ms for psql to issue a vacuum verbose and exit. At 83K tables the time is already at ~1.5second. The progress appars to be directly
> proportional to table amount, and grows linearly, eventually crossing past 3seconds - for blank table with no data.
>
> I think this may severely impact the entire vacuumdb run, but i have not verified that yet.
>
> This is irrelevant of amount of data restored, i am seeing the same behavior with just schema restore, as well as with schema+data restores.
>
> If anyone is interested i may upload the schema data + my benchmarking script with collected whisper data from my test run (i've been plotting it in grafana via carbon)
>
> Is this a known issue? Can i do anything to improve performance here?

we had 10K and more tables in one database - and we had lot of issues. 

I know so Tomas fixed some issues, but we need the stat files in tmpfs 

please, read this article  https://blog.pgaddict.com/posts/the-two-kinds-of-stats-in-postgresql

Regards

Pavel

>

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