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On 10/28/2016 04:55 PM, Samuel Williams wrote:
as these commands have been around for like 20 years, its kinda late to change them

I understand your position.

For new documentation, it should be better to say `pg_ctl init` rather
than `initdb`. I think that would guide users in the right direction
from the start. Even if maintaining the old commands, they could print
out to stderr "This command is deprecated and now wraps `pg_ctl init`.
Please use that command in the future".

It does:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/static/creating-cluster.html


initdb is now accessible from pg_ctl:

Thanks Adrian, that's really helpful and exactly what I was looking for.

Should we update the Arch Linux documentation to prefer these
commands? What is the recommendation here?

Given that pg_ctl initdb is in all current community supported versions I would say that is alright. Probably better to just point folks at the Postgres docs, a great deal of effort is done to keep them current. Also you have the version selection at the top of each page that allows you to walk back and forth through time.


On 29 October 2016 at 12:39, John R Pierce <pierce@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 10/28/2016 4:31 PM, Samuel Williams wrote:

Just wondering as the naming of these commands seems overly generic
and for a new user it's hard to know what commands are available since
there is no common prefix (e.g. pg_<tab>) for these commands.


as these commands have been around for like 20 years, its kinda late to
change them


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