Ivan Voras <ivoras@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > On 28 January 2016 at 00:13, Bill Moran <wmoran@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 23:54:37 +0100 > Ivan Voras <ivoras@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > So, question #1: WTF? How could this happen, on a regularly vacuumed > > system? Shouldn't the space be reused, at least after a VACUUM? The issue > > here is not the absolute existence of the bloat space, it's that it's > > constantly growing for *system* tables. > > With a lot of activity, once a day probably isn't regular enough. > > I sort of see what you are saying. I'm curious, though, what goes wrong with the following list of expectations: > > 1. Day-to-day load is approximately the same > 2. So, at the end of the first day there will be some amount of bloat > 3. Vacuum will mark that space re-usable > 4. Within the next day, this space will actually be re-used > 5. ... so the bloat won't grow. > > Basically, I'm wondering why is it growing after vacuums, not why it exists in the first place? Probably just a classic case of long-open transactions. And/or vacuum running as an unprivileged user and thus can't vacuum catalogs... perhaps with a naive batch job launcher that sends stderr to /dev/null. > -- Jerry Sievers Postgres DBA/Development Consulting e: postgres.consulting@xxxxxxxxxxx p: 312.241.7800 -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general