[ just a few comments on specific points ] "Greg Sabino Mullane" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> 2. The CoC is not about being offended. The act of being offended is >> purely a recipient response and usually the offended individual is more >> interested in being a victim than moving forward. > Too defensive; not needed in the code of conduct. Agreed, let's avoid defensiveness here. There's not much advantage to this whole exercise unless we can be welcoming rather than dismissive. >> 4. Any sustained disruption of the collaborative space (mailing lists, >> IRC etc..) or other PostgreSQL events shall be construed as a violation >> of the CoC and appropriate action will be taken by the CoC committee. > Too specific, covered by #1. Also, no definition of "CoC committee". If the CoC is to mean anything at all, there will have to be some sort of enforcement mechanism. But I suggest strongly that we leave that out of consideration for now, and focus just on what the conduct expectations are. [ FWIW, the core committee has always understood that part of our mandate was disciplinary actions if it came to that. It mostly hasn't; but if a CoC becomes reality, the natural thing would be that it would fall to core to enforce it. ] >> 5. The CoC is only about interaction with the PostgreSQL community. Your >> private and public lives outside of the PostgreSQL community are your own. > Needed? I know part of a code of conduct is stating the obvious, but... The Opal situation that was mentioned upthread seemed to me to be interesting in part because there was a question of whether a person was acting, outside the Opal community, in a way that others might take to represent that community. (I'm not stating that as fact, just saying that there was a suggestion of it.) I do not know where to draw those lines exactly, and I'm not sure that drawing a bright line is feasible. But it's a lot easier to say "your public life is your own" when you are not a well-known member of a community. When you are, well, your public persona is partly intertwined with that community, and you can't just turn that connection on and off. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general