On 1/5/2016 6:13 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On 01/05/2016 05:31 PM, Jim Nasby wrote:
Well, that highlights that it's not just about a CoC, it's the things
that surround it. Especially what the conflict resolution policy is.
I suspect JD thought about this because of a recent Facebook thread[1]
about how the FreeBSD community just screwed this up big-time[2]. The
big screw-up was not having solid ways to deal with such complaints in
place. Sadly, as part of that thread, it comes to light that there is
some history of this in the Postgres project as well.
The Facebook post was the secondary catalyst. The primary one was
discussions I have had on twitter about CoCs as well as continual work
with various conferences.
What I'd love to see is support and commitment from the Postgres
community to actively attract people who will focus not on the code but
on building the community itself. I know there are people in the
community that would be interested in doing that, but without active
support and some encouragement things aren't going to change.
Since the first PostgreSQL Conference East in Maryland, I have
requested this. A good portion of the keynote was about this. For some
reason our community doesn't show a lot of interest.
I'm a relatively quiet observer of the lists (and user of Postgres off
and on). Having organized a group of virtual discussion lists many
moons ago and to help manage the volume of new contributors forced a CoC
on them which both helped and hurt the community. I personally see no
problem with a CoC, but am experienced enough to be cautious about the
implementation.
You implied in your first post that you would attract more contributors
with a CoC. Jim Nasby posted links which outline recent issues related
to harassment. Other comments in this thread lead me to believe that
there are other potential perspectives ... Can I ask...
What specific problem or problems does the Postgres community currently
experience ?
What specific problem or problems might the Postgres community
experience (that you would like to avoid)?
[ that has led you to believe having a CoC would solve? ]
Roxanne
Sincerely,
JD
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