On 11/20/14, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 11/20/2014 11:02 AM, zach cruise wrote: >> On 11/20/14, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 11/20/2014 08:00 AM, zach cruise wrote: >>>> combining replies for the list: >>>> > >>> Well it would depend on your setup and the load on the master. Assuming >>> streaming replication. Simple explanation: >> yes streaming replication. >>> >>> 1) If the master is down and slave is up then the slave will stall at >>> whatever the last WAL was sent. When the master comes back up it will >>> catch up as new WALs are generated. >>> >>> 2) If the slave is down and the master is up, the master will keep on >>> creating WALs. The issue is that WALs are recycled over time, so given a >>> significant load on the master and extended downtime for the slave it is >>> possible that when the slave comes back up a WAL it needs is no longer >>> available and it will start throwing errors. One way to tune this is >>> modify wal_keep_segments (integer): >>> >>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/interactive/runtime-config-replication.html >> while the WAL archive directory has to be shared with both master and >> slave, should the WAL archive directory be independent of them ie >> should it not go down with either of them? if it has to go down with >> one, it seems it'd best for the WAL archive directory to go down with >> slave? > > So I am to understand that you have WAL archiving set up also? yes, slave gets updates from stream and WAL. if either fails, the other will update. > Again a simplified version: > > The ideal situation is you have a third machine that has the WAL > archives. The issue is that if the master cannot archive a WAL it will > keep it around until it can. So depending on load and outage you can end > with disk space issues on the master should it not be able clear the WALs. > > For more info see: > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/interactive/continuous-archiving.html to be clear- i change my 2 VMs setup {"1. master (dev) - 2. slave (prod) setup"} to 3 VMs {"1. master (dev) - 2. slave (prod) setup - 3. archive (wal)"}. but what do i gain? as it is, in the worst case, VMs can always be restored "fairly quickly" for our use. >>> For failover see: >>> >>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/interactive/warm-standby-failover.html >>> >>> "PostgreSQL does not provide the system software required to identify a >>> failure on the primary and notify the standby database server. Many such >>> tools exist and are well integrated with the operating system facilities >>> required for successful failover, such as IP address migration." >>> >>> So if you are looking for auto-promote you will need to look at third >>> party tools or writing your own script. >> while i can always use "pg_ctl promote", any recommendations for windows? > > Not from me, I do not run Postgres on Windows so I will be of no help > there. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general