On 04/18/14 00:09, Steve Spence wrote:
You know what? Fine, it doesn't matter that much to me. I'm happy to
continue using MySQL. It works with the Arduino quite nicely. Postgres
doesn't work. That's Postgres loss not mine. I really thought the
postgres team would be interested in providing support for a very
popular microcontroller system. If not, they are missing out on a
larger segment of users.
The MySQL connector is copyrighted and GPL'd by Oracle, it would be
nice if Postgres would do something similar for those that prefer
using Postgres instead of forcing people touse MySQL. My mistake in
thinking this might be the case. Or Maybe Jan doesn't speak for
Postgres .....
Steve,
I certainly do *not* speak for Postgres or its community. I actually
resigned from the CORE team a few years ago, so I explicitly do *not*
speak in any such role!
I only happen to be someone who did contribute one or more features to
the PostgreSQL project in the past. None of those contributions happened
by simply asking for "wild enthusiasm" for whatever I needed at that
moment.
I understand that you want PostgreSQL support for your favorite embedded
platform, but that will not happen unless you can generate enthusiasm
for PostgreSQL in the Arduino community. I know how funny that sounds,
because that is like asking to generate PostgreSQL enthusiasm in the
"yet another Perl based CMS" community. Not going to happen any time
soon. They all love dumb and fast bit buckets because they don't
understand the term "set oriented".
Fine with me, and probably (note: not speaking for, just guesstimating)
most of the audience here.
Regards,
Jan
Steve Spence, KK4HFJ
Director, Green Trust
http://www.green-trust.org
Http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Jan Wieck <jan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 04/17/14 20:01, Steve Spence wrote:
I'm trying to port my application from mysql to postgres (for the GIS
supoort). I had hoped there would be wild enthsuiasm for such a
project, as the Arduino community is extremely large, and this would
push postgres into a wider audience. I expected it would take multiple
people with varying backgrounds to accomplish the task. If you can do
it on your own, great. I'll be happy to lend what knowledge I have of
the Arduino and using the mysql connector -
This is a pattern I've seen for over a decade now. People think that
randomly sprinkling "MySQL" into a discussion will generate "wild
enthusiasm" for supporting "their attempt to port *their* appli ..." wait
... oh ... didn't work again?
Bummer!
Jan
http://www.green-trust.org/lmanco/find.php
Steve Spence, KK4HFJ
Director, Green Trust
http://www.green-trust.org
Http://arduinotronics.blogspot.com
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Tomas Vondra <tv@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 17.4.2014 19:43, Steve Spence wrote:
Oracle thought it was a good idea to put out a MySQL version, I
figure there should be some effort to counter that here .....
Really? I found no information about this on oracle.com or mysql.com,
except for a section in the discussion forum with ~20 posts. It's true
that the author is apparently a Senior Software Engineer at Oracle, but
this seems like a his own project. So much regarding the "Oracle
thought" part ...
BTW I doubt the approach "Oracle does X => you should do X too" will be
fruitful here.
Need a Team lead on this, and I'll collaborate as much as I can on the
Arduino / Networking side.
I'm a bit confused. What do you mean by "team lead"? I was thinking that
maybe this would be a fun project for the holidays, refreshing my
Arduino-fu. But no way I'm interested in being a TL of anything.
I was messing with the PostgreSQL protocol [1] recently, and writing a
code implementing something like what the mysql connector does would be
quite trivial. A day of work, maybe two if you know networking but not
the protocol.
regards
Tomas
[1] http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/interactive/protocol.html
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