Hi all, I'm curious if anyone can explain or suggest some debugging to explain some odd locking behavior I am able to reproduce on pg 9.2.1 I start a test program with 20 threads (autocommit=1), all executing the same SELECT query with a LEFT OUTER JOIN, 1~2 per second. Then I execute an ALTER to drop a column (one not referenced by the query, neither explicitly or by a *) from the table referenced in the OUTER JOIN. The ALTER blocks for many minutes: 2014-01-28 02:39:48.781 GMT,"postgres","pbs_production",49521,"[local]",52e713cb.c171,7,"ALTER TABLE waiting",2014-01-28 02:19:55 GMT,18/59,241951078,LOG,00000,"process 49521 acquired AccessExclusiveLock on relation 16637 of database 16409 after 932916.917 ms",,,,,,"alter table refunds drop column external_refund_id;",,,"psql" When I stop the test program doing the SELECTs, the ALTER gets unblocked and completes very quickly (the table contains 20k rows): 2014-01-28 02:39:48.803 GMT,"postgres","pbs_production",49521,"[local]",52e713cb.c171,8,"ALTER TABLE",2014-01-28 02:19:55 GMT,18/0,0,LOG,00000,"duration: 932939.482 ms statement: alter table refunds drop column external_refund_id;",,,,,,,,,"psql" When the test program is running, I see: # SELECT mode, COUNT(*) FROM pg_locks WHERE pid != pg_backend_pid() GROUP BY 1; mode | count -----------------+------- ExclusiveLock | 20 AccessShareLock | 440 (2 rows) Why are those exclusive locks present? Can't the database rely on mvcc for those reads without locking? The autocommit should be increasing the xid used for the reads, so the ALTER should be able to slip in-between? thanks in advance for any input, -neil -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general