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On 10/22/2013 2:18 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
On 10/22/2013 11:25 AM, andy wrote:
Hum.. I had not thought of that.  My current setup uses 40 max
connections, and I don't think I've ever hit it.  I use apache and
php, and my db connections are not persistent.

that style of php programming, you're getting some HUGE overhead in
connect/disconnect per web page.    putting pg_bouncer in the middle
will make a HUGE improvement, possibly a second per page load on a busy
server.



No, actually, I don't think my connect overhead is huge. My apache and postgres are on the same box, and it connects using unix socket. Perhaps if my apache on db were on different boxes it would be a problem.

My page response time is sub-second, and I run quite a few queries to build the page. But also, my server isn't to busy at the moment. The load is around 0.3 to 0.5 when its busy.

Stephen Said:
If I did plugin pg_bouncer, is it worth switching my php from
pg_connect to pg_pconnect?

No, let pg_bouncer manage the connection pooling.  Having two levels of
pooling isn't a good idea (and pg_bouncer does a *much* better job of it
anyway, imv..).


So you say DO use persistent connections, and Stephen says DONT use them. Although there are a few new players. Assuming Apache, pgbouncer and postgres are all on the same box, and I'm using unix sockets as much as possible, it probably doesn't matter if I use non-persistent connections from php.

But if I need to move the db to its own box... then should I move pgbouncer there too?

Assuming db is on a different box, persistent connections from php to postgres might be bad. But how about persistent connections to pgbouncer?

Thinking about it, if I need to move the db, I'll leave pgbouncer on the webserv box. That way I can unix socket from php to pgbouncer (non-persistent, cuz its fast enough anyway), and let pgbouncer do it's own thing to the database box. Seem like a reasonable sort of thing?

-Andy


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