On Wed Jul 17, 08:12am +0900, Michael Paquier wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:10 PM, David B Harris <dbharris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > 4. Copy all logs from start of pg_start_backup() through to when > > pg_stop_backup() finished (using the backup history file, I > > guess, which I haven't actually been able to find yet :) > I assume that you use WAL archiving, so why would you do that manually > as I understand it is the case at step #4? When using pg_stop_backup > it is even ensured that all the necessary WAL files are ready to be > archived. You still need for the file to be actually archived before > starting the recovery though I'm not using WAL archiving actually (these installations [there are a few of them] have never used log-shipping). Not yet anyway. Even if I were though, a step #4 would still be necessary I believe - if I read the documentation right, the last log segment that's supposed to be transferred isn't ready until after pg_stop_backup(). > > Is #4 actually necessary? (I can > > imagine ways of writing to the cluster files which might make it > > unnecessary, maybe somebody implemented that and didn't update the > > documentation?) > > Not really, archiving would do the rest for you, and it is managed by > the server. Just be sure to set up restore_command in recovery.conf > when starting a node from the backup you took. Yeah, so if I understand right, you're using WAL archiving for step #4, and your process looks like this: 1. Issue pg_start_backup('label') 2. Perform rsync of cluster directory 3. Issue pg_stop_backup() 4. In parallel, WAL archiving has copied all the logs from the start of pg_start_backup() through to the end of pg_stop_backup() A configuration like this is provided like this in the documentation (again section 24.3), though some assembly is required. I'm hoping to avoid it since it'll be introducing a second channel to the backup which I can almost guarantee will be forgotten in time. (BTW, we tend to consider the lifespan of our installations in terms of decades.) I mean, if it's necessary, the so be it of course, but the question still remains: I've tested a fair bit under fairly adverse conditions and not had a single failure. Luck? -- Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realise the pig is enjoying it. OpenPGP v4 key ID: 4096R/59DDCB9F Fingerprint: CC53 F124 35C0 7BC2 58FE 7A3C 157D DFD9 59DD CB9F Retrieve from subkeys.pgp.net -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general