Hi Chris, > I don't see > any reason to create a record with a NULL and then replace that NULL > before committing. Sort out program logic first; then look to the > database. I beg to differ here. Say you have a set of business rules that rigidly defines how that field must be made AND the data on which it is based is not visible to the user who does the insert. At this point you need "something" to generate that value on the fly for the user (calling a procedure from a before insert trigger). You still need your field to be NOT NULL, though. Because it happens to be... the PK :) Cheers Bèrto -- ============================== If Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general