On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> "check_postgres --action=bloat" returns OK [after VACUUM FULL]. So it's not bloat. >> What else could it be? > > I would have to double check but I think > check_postgres --action=bloat only checks for dead space, not usable space, > so you could actually still have bloat, just bloat that is usable. This is how check_postgres checks. How would I check for usable bloat, to confirm that that's what I am running into? What is usable bloat, anyway? (Is there some write-up on it?) SELECT current_database() AS db, schemaname, tablename, reltuples::bigint AS tups, relpages::bigint AS pages, otta, ROUND(CASE WHEN otta=0 OR sml.relpages=0 OR sml.relpages=otta THEN 0.0 ELSE sml.relpages/otta::numeric END,1) AS tbloat, CASE WHEN relpages < otta THEN 0 ELSE relpages::bigint - otta END AS wastedpages, CASE WHEN relpages < otta THEN 0 ELSE bs*(sml.relpages-otta)::bigint END AS wastedbytes, CASE WHEN relpages < otta THEN '0 bytes'::text ELSE (bs*(relpages-otta))::bigint || ' bytes' END AS wastedsize, iname, ituples::bigint AS itups, ipages::bigint AS ipages, iotta, ROUND(CASE WHEN iotta=0 OR ipages=0 OR ipages=iotta THEN 0.0 ELSE ipages/iotta::numeric END,1) AS ibloat, CASE WHEN ipages < iotta THEN 0 ELSE ipages::bigint - iotta END AS wastedipages, CASE WHEN ipages < iotta THEN 0 ELSE bs*(ipages-iotta) END AS wastedibytes, CASE WHEN ipages < iotta THEN '0 bytes' ELSE (bs*(ipages-iotta))::bigint || ' bytes' END AS wastedisize, CASE WHEN relpages < otta THEN CASE WHEN ipages < iotta THEN 0 ELSE ipages-iotta::bigint END ELSE CASE WHEN ipages < iotta THEN relpages-otta::bigint ELSE relpages-otta::bigint + ipages-iotta::bigint END END AS totalwastedbytes FROM ( SELECT schemaname, tablename, cc.reltuples, cc.relpages, bs, CEIL((cc.reltuples*((datahdr+ma- (CASE WHEN datahdr%ma=0 THEN ma ELSE datahdr%ma END))+nullhdr2+4))/(bs-20::float)) AS otta, COALESCE(c2.relname,'?') AS iname, COALESCE(c2.reltuples,0) AS ituples, COALESCE(c2.relpages,0) AS ipages, COALESCE(CEIL((c2.reltuples*(datahdr-12))/(bs-20::float)),0) AS iotta -- very rough approximation, assumes all cols FROM ( SELECT ma,bs,schemaname,tablename, (datawidth+(hdr+ma-(case when hdr%ma=0 THEN ma ELSE hdr%ma END)))::numeric AS datahdr, (maxfracsum*(nullhdr+ma-(case when nullhdr%ma=0 THEN ma ELSE nullhdr%ma END))) AS nullhdr2 FROM ( SELECT schemaname, tablename, hdr, ma, bs, SUM((1-null_frac)*avg_width) AS datawidth, MAX(null_frac) AS maxfracsum, hdr+( SELECT 1+count(*)/8 FROM pg_stats s2 WHERE null_frac<>0 AND s2.schemaname = s.schemaname AND s2.tablename = s.tablename ) AS nullhdr FROM pg_stats s, ( SELECT (SELECT current_setting('block_size')::numeric) AS bs, CASE WHEN SUBSTRING(SPLIT_PART(v, ' ', 2) FROM '#"[0-9]+.[0-9]+#"%' for '#') IN ('8.0','8.1','8.2') THEN 27 ELSE 23 END AS hdr, CASE WHEN v ~ 'mingw32' OR v ~ '64-bit' THEN 8 ELSE 4 END AS ma FROM (SELECT version() AS v) AS foo ) AS constants GROUP BY 1,2,3,4,5 ) AS foo ) AS rs JOIN pg_class cc ON cc.relname = rs.tablename JOIN pg_namespace nn ON cc.relnamespace = nn.oid AND nn.nspname = rs.schemaname AND nn.nspname <> 'information_schema' LEFT JOIN pg_index i ON indrelid = cc.oid LEFT JOIN pg_class c2 ON c2.oid = i.indexrelid ) AS sml WHERE sml.relpages - otta > 0 OR ipages - iotta > 10 ORDER BY totalwastedbytes DESC LIMIT 10 Yours, Aleksey -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general