Hello Tomas and Cédric, Right now, the server is not all right. Load is above 30 and queries are slow like hell. Here's the complete iotop. Note the 71 MB/s writes (apparently on SELECT queries). Total DISK READ: 633.35 K/s | Total DISK WRITE: 71.06 M/s TID PRIO USER DISK READ DISK WRITE SWAPIN IO> COMMAND 27352 be/4 postgres 15.64 K/s 86.01 K/s 0.00 % 99.99 % postgres: database database 176.31.228.6(38816) SELECT 20226 be/4 postgres 7.82 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 99.99 % postgres: database database 176.31.228.6(34166) SELECT 26950 be/4 postgres 23.46 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 82.14 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(40820) SELECT 23160 be/4 postgres 3.91 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 81.14 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(58091) SELECT 29184 be/4 postgres 7.82 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 79.17 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(51047) SELECT 27271 be/4 postgres 23.46 K/s 234.58 K/s 0.00 % 77.15 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(42315) SELECT 28224 be/4 postgres 0.00 B/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 74.09 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(49871) SELECT 27450 be/4 postgres 23.46 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 70.12 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(49096) SELECT 29206 be/4 postgres 121.20 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 62.99 % postgres: database database 176.31.228.6(39787) SELECT 8202 be/4 postgres 129.02 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 60.59 % postgres: database database 91.121.89.14(57291) SELECT 29209 be/4 postgres 3.91 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 55.75 % postgres: database database 176.31.228.6(39807) idle 27046 be/4 postgres 3.91 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 52.35 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(41285) SELECT 29217 be/4 postgres 54.73 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 50.18 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(51178) SELECT 3249 be/4 root 3.91 K/s 320.59 K/s 0.00 % 40.31 % [kjournald] 28918 be/4 postgres 7.82 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 34.83 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(50164) SELECT 26856 be/4 postgres 7.82 K/s 234.58 K/s 0.00 % 34.30 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(40589) SELECT 29205 be/4 postgres 7.82 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 34.17 % postgres: database database 176.31.228.6(39784) SELECT 4175 be/4 root 0.00 B/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 1.84 % [flush-8:0] 28905 be/4 postgres 0.00 B/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.02 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(50125) SELECT 28919 be/4 postgres 0.00 B/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.01 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(50167) SELECT 19807 be/4 postgres 3.91 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.00 % postgres: database database 176.31.228.6(33598) SELECT 28703 be/4 postgres 0.00 B/s 86.01 K/s 0.00 % 0.00 % postgres: database database 176.31.228.6(39260) SELECT 29183 be/4 postgres 7.82 K/s 0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.00 % postgres: database database 46.105.104.205(51044) SELECT Here is dirty_expire_centisecs : cat /proc/sys/vm/dirty_expire_centisecs 3000 Bgwriter configuration is default : #bgwriter_delay = 200ms # 10-10000ms between rounds #bgwriter_lru_maxpages = 100 # 0-1000 max buffers written/round #bgwriter_lru_multiplier = 2.0 # 0-10.0 multipler on buffers scanned/round Is there anything I can provide to help you ? Thanks again, Gaëtan Le 25/11/11 14:12, « Tomas Vondra » <tv@xxxxxxxx> a écrit : >On 25 Listopad 2011, 12:43, Cédric Villemain wrote: >> Le 25 novembre 2011 11:25, Tomas Vondra <tv@xxxxxxxx> a écrit : >>> On 24 Listopad 2011, 23:19, Cédric Villemain wrote: >>>> >>>> It seem you have an issue with your checkpoint syncing time, it is >>>> fixed in 9.1 and backported in 9.0 here : >>>> http://projects.2ndquadrant.com/backports >>> >>> People generally don't want to apply backports on their own, especially >>> when it's a production server and when it's unclear it actually fixes >>> the >>> issue they have. I'm not sure about that. >> >> I agree that most people don't want to do that themselves, but if it >> happens to be the solution they can proceed or ask someone to do it. >> People want to see their production system back to a normal situation, >> here the limited information are not enought to be sure, but the >> checkpoint sync time are clear: sync time are not correct. >> It is very probable that compacting the fsync will help, but it is not >> sure it is required yet. > >Yes, the sync times are quite crazy. Especially given the tiny number of >buffers to be written and the fact that the SSD should handle random I/O >quite well. > >>>> It is possible you have other problems that explains the issue you >>>> have. An immediate solution before trying a patch is to reduce your >>>> shared_buffer setting to something very low, like 1GB. >>> >>> Well, using low shared_buffers was used especially before 8.3, when the >>> spread checkpoints were not available. It prevents the I/O overload >>>when >>> the database suddenly decides to write all of the dirty buffers. But >>> he's >>> on 9.0 (so he already has spread checkpoints). >> >> It is a different animal here. >> >>> >>> Plus the number of buffers he's writing is negligible - usually about >>> 700 >>> buffers (6MB), 3192 buffers (25MB) at most. That surely should not be a >>> problem for the SSD he's using. >> >> See the blog entry from Greg Smith: >> >>http://blog.2ndquadrant.com/en/2011/06/backporting-and-checkpoint-tro.htm >>l >> >> And the slides of his talk at pgconf2011: >> >>http://www.2ndquadrant.com/static/2quad/media/pdfs/talks/WriteStuff-PGCon >>2011.pdf >> >> I was just pointing that there are known issues in this area, with >> known solutions. > >Thanks for the links, interesting stuff. Still, my impression is that the >SSD is stressed by something else, and the high fsync values during a >checkpoint are merely a symptom. So fixing a checkpoint (using the >backpatch) won't actually fix the issue. But I'm just guessing here. > >> Getting more information on vacuum activity, bgwriter activity should >>help >> too. > >Yes, that'd be nice. Gaëtan, can you post bgwriter-related options from >postgresql.conf and two snapshosts from pg_stat_bgwriter (say 5 minutes >apart, collected when the db is slow)? A complete 'iotop -o' output would >be nice too. > >BTW what filesystem are we talking about? What mount options have you >used? > >What about the /proc/sys/vm/dirty_expire_centiseconds? > >Tomas -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general