On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:43 AM, patrick keshishian <pkeshish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:09 PM, patrick keshishian <pkeshish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:49 PM, William E. Moreno A. >>> <wmoreno3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Solution: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2007-12/msg01339.php >>>> Solution: Message-id: <476D6DE1.4050600@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> <text/plain> >>>> >>>> Problem: FATAL: the database system is starting up >>>> >>>> Solved: change postgresql_flags in /etc/rc.conf to: postgresql_flags="-s -m fast" or postgresql_flags="-s -m smart" >>> >>> interesting enough, got bit by this recently. Our set up does not have >>> a "-w" option. During upgrades we "cycle" our PostgreSQL daemon. We >>> had to change the "pg_ctl stop" command to "-mimmediate" because >>> during upgrades we would find that someone had an abandoned psql shell >>> running for days and that would halt our upgrade script. >>> >>> Adding "-m immediate" for shutdown seemed like a logical choice to get >>> around this sort of a "procedural" issue(s). >> >> didn't -m fast work? > > I forget now why "-m fast" wasn't used. I tried to dig up anything I > had in my notes and did a set of new experiments (hence the late > reply), but didn't come up with much. > > About the only difference with '-m fast' and '-m immediate' seems to > be the following log entry: > > .... database system was > not properly shut down; automatic recovery in progress > > For now, I've changed the script to use '-m fast' and removed the > sleep. Will find out after some moderate use of it whether it was a > wise decision or not :-) (just for the archives ...) So, even though 'stop -m fast' does in fact work nicer than "-m immediate", the sleep(3) is required after a "pg_ctl -D $PGDATA start" command, in our scripts. Excuse gmail line-wraps: # /etc/init.d/postgres stop Stopping PostgreSQL Database (smart)... OK # date ; /etc/init.d/postgres start ; date ; i=0 ; while : ; do psql -lU postgres 2>/dev/null && date && break ; i=$((i+1)) ; printf "PG9 connect try #%d\n" $i ; done Mon Nov 7 20:58:06 PST 2011 Starting PostgreSQL Database... OK Mon Nov 7 20:58:06 PST 2011 PG9 connect try #1 PG9 connect try #2 PG9 connect try #3 PG9 connect try #4 PG9 connect try #5 PG9 connect try #6 PG9 connect try #7 PG9 connect try #8 PG9 connect try #9 PG9 connect try #10 PG9 connect try #11 PG9 connect try #12 PG9 connect try #13 PG9 connect try #14 PG9 connect try #15 PG9 connect try #16 PG9 connect try #17 PG9 connect try #18 PG9 connect try #19 PG9 connect try #20 PG9 connect try #21 PG9 connect try #22 PG9 connect try #23 PG9 connect try #24 PG9 connect try #25 PG9 connect try #26 PG9 connect try #27 PG9 connect try #28 PG9 connect try #29 PG9 connect try #30 PG9 connect try #31 PG9 connect try #32 PG9 connect try #33 PG9 connect try #34 PG9 connect try #35 PG9 connect try #36 PG9 connect try #37 PG9 connect try #38 PG9 connect try #39 PG9 connect try #40 PG9 connect try #41 PG9 connect try #42 PG9 connect try #43 PG9 connect try #44 PG9 connect try #45 PG9 connect try #46 PG9 connect try #47 PG9 connect try #48 PG9 connect try #49 PG9 connect try #50 PG9 connect try #51 PG9 connect try #52 PG9 connect try #53 PG9 connect try #54 PG9 connect try #55 List of databases Name | Owner | Encoding | Collation | Ctype | Access privileges -----------+----------+----------+-------------+-------------+----------------------- foo | postgres | UTF8 | en_US.UTF-8 | en_US.UTF-8 | postgres | postgres | UTF8 | en_US.UTF-8 | en_US.UTF-8 | template0 | postgres | UTF8 | en_US.UTF-8 | en_US.UTF-8 | =c/postgres + | | | | | postgres=CTc/postgres template1 | postgres | UTF8 | en_US.UTF-8 | en_US.UTF-8 | =c/postgres + | | | | | postgres=CTc/postgres x1 | postgres | UTF8 | en_US.UTF-8 | en_US.UTF-8 | (5 rows) Mon Nov 7 20:58:07 PST 2011 # /etc/init.d/postgres stop Stopping PostgreSQL Database (smart)... OK # date ; /etc/init.d/postgres start ; date ; i=0 ; while : ; do psql -lU postgres 2>/dev/null && date && break ; i=$((i+1)) ; printf "PG9 connect try #%d\n" $i ; done Mon Nov 7 20:58:49 PST 2011 Starting PostgreSQL Database... OK Mon Nov 7 20:58:49 PST 2011 PG9 connect try #1 PG9 connect try #2 PG9 connect try #3 PG9 connect try #4 PG9 connect try #5 PG9 connect try #6 PG9 connect try #7 PG9 connect try #8 PG9 connect try #9 PG9 connect try #10 PG9 connect try #11 PG9 connect try #12 PG9 connect try #13 PG9 connect try #14 PG9 connect try #15 PG9 connect try #16 PG9 connect try #17 PG9 connect try #18 PG9 connect try #19 PG9 connect try #20 PG9 connect try #21 PG9 connect try #22 PG9 connect try #23 PG9 connect try #24 PG9 connect try #25 PG9 connect try #26 PG9 connect try #27 PG9 connect try #28 PG9 connect try #29 PG9 connect try #30 PG9 connect try #31 PG9 connect try #32 PG9 connect try #33 PG9 connect try #34 PG9 connect try #35 PG9 connect try #36 PG9 connect try #37 PG9 connect try #38 PG9 connect try #39 PG9 connect try #40 PG9 connect try #41 PG9 connect try #42 PG9 connect try #43 PG9 connect try #44 List of databases Name | Owner | Encoding | Collation | Ctype | Access privileges -----------+----------+----------+-------------+-------------+----------------------- foo | postgres | UTF8 | en_US.UTF-8 | en_US.UTF-8 | postgres | postgres | UTF8 | en_US.UTF-8 | en_US.UTF-8 | template0 | postgres | UTF8 | en_US.UTF-8 | en_US.UTF-8 | =c/postgres + | | | | | postgres=CTc/postgres template1 | postgres | UTF8 | en_US.UTF-8 | en_US.UTF-8 | =c/postgres + | | | | | postgres=CTc/postgres x1 | postgres | UTF8 | en_US.UTF-8 | en_US.UTF-8 | (5 rows) Mon Nov 7 20:58:50 PST 2011 vs same with PG7: # date ; /etc/init.d/postgres-db start ; date ; i=0 ; while : ; do i=$((i+1)) ; psql -lU postgres 2>/dev/null && date && break ; printf "PG7 connect try #%d\n" $i ; done Mon Nov 7 21:57:54 PST 2011 Starting PostgreSQL Database... OK Mon Nov 7 21:57:54 PST 2011 PG7 connect try #1 PG7 connect try #2 List of databases Name | Owner | Encoding -----------+----------+----------- foo | postgres | SQL_ASCII template0 | postgres | SQL_ASCII template1 | postgres | SQL_ASCII (3 rows) Mon Nov 7 21:57:54 PST 2011 # /etc/init.d/postgres-db stop Stopping PostgreSQL Database (smart)... OK # date ; /etc/init.d/postgres-db start ; date ; i=0 ; while : ; do i=$((i+1)) ; psql -lU postgres 2>/dev/null && date && break ; printf "PG7 connect try #%d\n" $i ; done Mon Nov 7 21:59:35 PST 2011 Starting PostgreSQL Database... OK Mon Nov 7 21:59:35 PST 2011 PG7 connect try #1 PG7 connect try #2 List of databases Name | Owner | Encoding -----------+----------+----------- foo | postgres | SQL_ASCII template0 | postgres | SQL_ASCII template1 | postgres | SQL_ASCII (3 rows) Mon Nov 7 21:59:35 PST 2011 The "cute" thing with PG7 is, we also start the contrib/pg_autovacuum in "/etc/init.d/postgre start", which would "cover up" for, what seems to be two connect failures right after start of PG7. Cheers, --patrick -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
