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Re: [HACKERS] Creating temp tables inside read only transactions

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Jeff Davis wrote:
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 23:39 -0700, Darren Duncan wrote:
What if you used the context of the calling code and resolve in favor of whatever match is closest to it? The problem is related to general-purpose programming languages.

Basically start looking in the lexical context for an "x" and if you find one use that; otherwise, assuming we're talking about referencing code that lives in the database such as a function, look at the innermost schema containing the referencing code and see if it has a direct child named "x"; otherwise go up one level to a parent schema, and so on until you get to the top, and finding none by then say it doesn't exist.

This is an example of where data languages and normal programming
languages have a crucial difference.

With a data language, you have this problem:
 1. An application uses a query referencing 'y.z.foo' that resolves to
internal object with fully-qualified name 'x.y.z'.
 2. An administrator creates object 'y.z.foo'.

Now, the application breaks all of a sudden.

In a normal prgramming language, if the schema of the two "foo"s are
different, the compiler could probably catch the error. SQL really has
no hope of catching it though.

PostgreSQL has this problem now in a couple ways, but it's much easier
to grasp what you might be conflicting with. If you have multiple nested
levels to traverse and different queries using different levels of
qualification, it gets a little more messy and I think a mistake is more
likely.

Well, my search path suggestion was based on Tom Lane's comment that "the SQL spec requires us to be able to [support abbreviations]" and I expected it would be syntactically and semantically backwards compatible with how things work now.

FYI, with Muldis D, being more green fields, there are no search paths in the general case, and every entity reference is unambiguous because it has to be fully-qualified.

However, I also support relative references, and in fact require their use for references within the same database, which carries a number of benefits, at the cost of being a few characters more verbose than when using a search path. So introducing new things with the same names in different namespaces won't break anything there, even if they are "closer". Its essentially like navigating a Unix filesystem but with "." rather than "/".

So for example, if you had 2 sibling schemas "s1" and "s2", each with 2 functions "f1","f2" and a table "t", then s1.f1 would reference s1.f2 and s1.t as sch.lib.f2 and sch.data.t respectively, while s1.f1 would refer to the entities in s2 as sch.par.s2.lib.f1 and sch.par.s2.data.t and such (a function can also refer to itself anonymously as "rtn" if it's recursive). The "sch" is like "." in Unix and the "par" is like ".." in Unix. The "data" is for data tables or views (and "cat" is for catalog tables/views) while "lib" is for user-defined types, routines, constraints, etc (and "sys" is for built-in types and routines, but "sys" may be omitted and search paths exist just for built-ins). Synonyms are also supported.

I don't expect you would adopt relative (fully-qualified) references, because the syntax isn't in standard SQL (I think), but I did. Unless you like them and can come up with a syntax that will fit into how SQL does things.

-- Darren Duncan

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