John R Pierce <pierce@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > today has been like deja vu, I'm seeing all kinda postings from > yesterday regurgitated. > is this just me? or did the server hiccup and send a lot of stuff twice? It appears that one alexis.michon@xxxxxxx at athena.ibcp.fr regurgitated a lot of postings. To judge by what I got this morning (one example below), the PG servers did reject a lot of them as duplicate, with the bounce messages going to the original posters, since the regurgitated messages were complete with forged envelope From :-(. But some of them apparently got modified enough to escape the duplicate-checksum test, and then they got posted, since they looked like real messages from subscribed people. This happens every so often. It seems to usually be the fault of broken Microsloth mail software. 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Thu, 9 Jun 2011 16:20:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us (sss.pgh.pa.us [66.207.139.130]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC98B5DBC0 for <pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:20:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us (tgl@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p59GK2Bu009436; Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:20:02 -0400 (EDT) To: Jochen Erwied <jochen@xxxxxxxxx> cc: Marti Raudsepp <marti@xxxxxxxxx>, muthu krishnan <muthu.krishnan.linux@xxxxxxxxx>, Jochen Erwied <jochen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In-reply-to: <386582098.20110609125323@xxxxxxxxx> References: <BANLkTikknfi5L52PuPZuF1Eof1y1qdiY1w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <16710651848.20110609113019@xxxxxxxxx> <BANLkTi=MViJpg21a0-gv0fEx8kg8Zo4z1g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <BANLkTinaGxu-ruoJaPUoCgj5te7HvYSSwA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <386582098.20110609125323@xxxxxxxxx> Comments: In-reply-to Jochen Erwied <jochen@xxxxxxxxx> message dated "Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:53:23 +0200" Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:20:02 -0400 Message-ID: <9435.1307636402@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> From: Tom Lane <tgl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Mailing-List: pgsql-performance List-Archive: <http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance> List-Help: <mailto:majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?body=help> List-ID: <pgsql-performance.postgresql.org> List-Owner: <mailto:pgsql-performance-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Post: <mailto:pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-Subscribe: <mailto:majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?body=sub%20pgsql-performance> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?body=unsub%20pgsql-performance> Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-performance-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx X-IBCP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-IBCP-MailScanner-ID: 3259224C273.A3A7F X-IBCP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-IBCP-MailScanner-From: root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Postgresql on itanium server X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.91 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01 X-Spam-Level: Jochen Erwied <jochen@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > Thursday, June 9, 2011, 12:45:06 PM you wrote: >> As the URL mentions, you can build with CFLAGS=-ffast-math, that >> should work for PostgreSQL too. > I just tried this with the source for 9.0.4, at least with this version the > build will not complete since there is a check in > src/backend/utils/adt/date.c throwing an error if FAST_MATH is active. Yeah. See http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2002-09/msg00169.php and following discussions, which eventually led to adding the #error. Now this was all done in regards to PG's original floating-point timestamp implementation. It's possible that in an integer-datetimes build (which is now the default) we don't need to forbid -ffast-math to prevent strange datetime results. But nobody's done the work to prove that, because there isn't any particularly good reason to enable -ffast-math in a database in the first place. (Other than coping with brain-dead platforms, I guess.) However ... I'm not sure I believe that this is related to the OP's problem anyway. Postgres doesn't normally work with any denormalized numbers, so the messages he's seeing probably stem from some other sort of shortcoming in the hardware FP support. It would be interesting to see specific examples of SQL operations that trigger the kernel message. regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-performance mailing list (pgsql-performance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-performance ------------=_1307697742-84061-2-- -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general