Given that you are actively implementing the code that uses the 1 and 2 I don't see how it is that egregious. When generating calculated fields it is cleaner than the alternative: Select trunc(distance * 10.)/10., count(*) >From doc_ads Group by (trunc(distance * 10.)) Order by (trunc(distance * 10.)) It would be nice if you could do: Select trunc(distance * 10.)/10. AS bin, count(*) AS frequency >From doc_ads Group by bin Order by bin But I do not believe that is allowed (though I may have my syntax wrong...) David J. >> re: 1 and 2. They're horrible (imho) reference to the attributes of the returned tuple. Or at best an exposure of the implementation. :) >>Joel Reymont wrote: >>> I think this should do what I want >>> >>> select trunc(distance * 10.)/10., count(*) >>> from doc_ads >>> group by 1 order by 1 >>> >>> Thanks, Joel -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general