On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:11, Thom Brown <thom@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 16 November 2010 09:30, Magnus Hagander <magnus@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 03:45, Elliot Chance <elliotchance@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > I have made some major changes "beta2" >> <snip> >> >> > Extra thoughts; >> > >> > It would not be practical for the forums to create a dummy mailing list email address per person or forum, >> >> Why? It doesn't have to be actual mailboxes, but it needs to be a >> deliverable email address. >> >> The other option is, of course, to send the email using the email >> address the forum user uses to register with the forum. That might >> cause issues with some antispam solutions, but as long as it's done >> right, I think that would work. > > Won't the vast majority of those require moderation if users aren't > signed up to a mailing list? I mean we could have the "reply-to" It would. The best way around that would be to auto-subscribe them and set them to NOMAIL, as has been previously suggested. >> Personally, I find the lack of this a show-stopper issue. We do *not* >> want what's basically going to be anonymous posts on the lists. > > Definitely. > >> IMHO, there needs to be a one-to-one mapping, and nothing else. > > Agreed. The justification for a forum, from my perspective, is > another method of interacting with the mailing list to open it up to a > wider audience. I don't like the idea of additional forums which > don't match a mailing list as it would not only create community > fragmentation, but most of the people with the answers won't be > reading the forums. Exactly my point. >> I'm not a big user of web forums (I use them when I have to, but it's >> certainly not a medium I consider efficient so I don't choose it), so >> here's a question that may be obvious, but still required: quoting. >> Can the forum software be set up to always quote responses properly? >> And somehow discourage top-posting in said responses? We absolutely do >> *not* want a forum to start feeding non-quoted responses back to the >> mailinglists, and non-quoted responses is unfortunately pretty common >> on most forums where I usually end up - but again, that is hopefully >> just a setting :-) > > Have you seen Elliot's prototype? From what I've seen, quoting comes > through fine. It would just have to work correctly the other way, in > that it sends plain text emails with correct levels of chevrons. Yes, I'm only talking about the forum->mail direction here. > A test mailing list will no doubt need to be set up for testing such > functionality. But before too much work commences on this, will this > have the backing of the team? I personally think, even though I don't > want a forum myself, others will, and it would reduce barriers to the > community. Obviously it will need to work seamlessly too, so that it > doesn't cause any issues on the mailing lists themselves. Personally, I would Ok with doing this, *IF* all the issues raised are dealt with. Particularly the posting side *must* be fixed. Without that, it definitely won't have the backing of the sysadmin/infrastructure team. With it, probably, but I can't speak for others than myself. -- Magnus Hagander Me: http://www.hagander.net/ Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
